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On 2007-05-02, rm@biteme.org wrote:
> In alt.os.linux.slackware Chris F.A. Johnson <cfajohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-05-02, news@absamail.co.za wrote:

>>> Several stable/well-matured applications could
>>> benefit from a universal menuing-front-end.
>>>
>>> I wanted to use slrn, but just one of its submenues
>>> is absurdly:------------
>>> General movement:
>>>
>>> n Go to the next unread article (or next group, if at end).
>>> p Go to the previous unread article.
>>> N, ESC RIGHT Skip to next group.
>>> ESC LEFT Go to previous group.
>>> ! Go to the next article with a high score.
>>> = Go to the next article with the same subject.
>>> L Go to the last read article and display it.
>>> ---- [and this is just one sub-menu] --- !
>>
>> That's not a menu; it's a help screen. What's absurd about it?
>
> It's a menu. It's an old fashioned, hard to use, command line menu.

My situation, perhaps different from others is that I can't afford to
PAY online time while learning the syntax of every new application.
And bTW I've found a good solution for fetching httpS: I just pre-list
10 or so URLs in a file and 'hand it to' lynx, which accumulates the
fetches for later reading

> But it's a menu. The thing that is absurd about it is the fact that
> some people actually prefer such a menu to a modern, point and
> click, gui menu.

Well man gpm-root reads:-------
string f.fgcmd cmdstring
When the mouse button is released above the corresponding menu
item, the cmdstring is pasted in the keyboard queue of the cur-
rent console. This is not yet implemented.

string f.bgcmd cmdstring
When the mouse button is released above the corresponding menu
item, a shell (/bin/sh) is forked to execute the specified com-
mand, with stdin connected to /dev/null, and stdout, stderr con-
nected to the active console.
--------
The 'string f.bgcmd cmdstring' menu-entry works nicely, but I'm
wondering how/if I could 'feed a char or two to the
'application' ? Can't some one tell how to ?

It seems that the "not yet implemented" facility was trying to do
what I want.

Q - isn't there a method to feed from a file as if the chars came
from the keyboard to [in this example] the slrn application ?

Come on boys, think out of the box.

Thanks,

== Chris Glur.

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On 2007-05-03, news@absamail.co.za <news@absamail.co.za> wrote:
>
> Come on boys, think out of the box.
>
> Thanks,
>
>== Chris Glur.

Come on, did you RTFM for slrn......macros ring a bell

ken

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In <slrnf3j3uf.g85.no_one@localhost.localdomain> No_One:

[Snip...]

> Come on, did you RTFM

Sure, where it sez says plonk anyone starting/continuing newsreader trolls.

JMO; YMMV; HTH...

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news@absamail.co.za wrote:

> My situation, perhaps different from others is that I can't afford to
> PAY online time while learning the syntax of every new application.

You might find Slrn's "slrnpull" option useful, then: you configure the
system to download messages from the newsgroups you want, then you spend
some time _offline_ reading those articles with the newsreader. You
type up your replies, which the newsreader queues up for sending the
next time it connects to fetch any new articles. The online time you
pay for is then reduced to only the time it takes slrnpull to fetch new
articles and submit any you've prepared. It's extremely convenient.

> And bTW I've found a good solution for fetching httpS: I just pre-list
> 10 or so URLs in a file and 'hand it to' lynx, which accumulates the
> fetches for later reading

You might find that wget is also useful for this type of thing. In
general, I'll tend to use wget sooner than lynx for this, though before
there was a wget, lynx was the way to do what you're doing.

[gpm]
> It seems that the "not yet implemented" facility was trying to do
> what I want.

I think so, yes.

> Q - isn't there a method to feed from a file as if the chars came
> from the keyboard to [in this example] the slrn application ?
>
> Come on boys, think out of the box.

What you're trying to get works well with some applications (Pine,
for instance), but is simply not as easy with others. Have a look
at slrnpull. If you have a recent slrn on your system, you also have
slrnpull (unless it was explicitly removed). I think you'll find it
permits you to optimize the online time you pay for while still permitting
you to interact with the application in a "normal" manner.

I hope that helps ...

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Systems and Network analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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>> And bTW I've found a good solution for fetching httpS: I just pre-list
>> 10 or so URLs in a file and 'hand it to' lynx, which accumulates the
>> fetches for later reading
>
> You might find that wget is also useful for this type of thing. In
> general, I'll tend to use wget sooner than lynx for this, though before
> there was a wget, lynx was the way to do what you're doing.

elinks is better than lynx and offers tabs. You can create a script
to feed a bunch of urls to it and have them open in new tabs.

function wwwlinks() {
for f in $@ ; do
elinks -remote $f ; done
}

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Faux_Pseudo wrote:

>> You might find that wget is also useful for this type of thing. In
>> general, I'll tend to use wget sooner than lynx for this, though before
>> there was a wget, lynx was the way to do what you're doing.
>
> elinks is better than lynx and offers tabs. ...

Did you purposely overlook the point of what I wrote, or was your
followup really intended for the OP?

("before there was a wget", there wasn't an elinks; the two projects
started within the same year, it seems ...)

I think I may be starting to take it personally when people criticize
lynx, and point out how other text-based browsers have all sorts of
features it lacks. Lynx predates them all. For years, it was *the*
web browser, with perhaps Mosaic coming in handy when you wanted to look
at a "fancy" site. For someone who has gotten so used to just typing
"lynx http://blah/" when he wants to visit a website, it's actually
quite good enough (though I admit that at this point I rarely use
Lynx myself, except to verify that a web page I've created renders
as intended in a text-only interface). At this point, unless someone
designs a text-based web browser that can handle JavaScript, the way
it seems web page "developpers" are going, text-based browsers will
only be good enough to let the reader know there's an image, a link,
and a couple of frames on any given page. oh! and that it expects you
to keep a cookie, for a simple one-time search!

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Sylvain Robitaille syl@alcor.concordia.ca

Systems and Network analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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_.-In alt.os.linux.slackware, Sylvain Robitaille wrote the following -._
> Faux_Pseudo wrote:
>
>>> You might find that wget is also useful for this type of thing. In
>>> general, I'll tend to use wget sooner than lynx for this, though before
>>> there was a wget, lynx was the way to do what you're doing.
>>
>> elinks is better than lynx and offers tabs. ...
>
> Did you purposely overlook the point of what I wrote, or was your
> followup really intended for the OP?

It was more of a general point to anyone who might be reading this and
still using lynx. elinks is a much better browser in all. I didn't
see the elinks clause of your statement.

> ("before there was a wget", there wasn't an elinks; the two projects
> started within the same year, it seems ...)

I use wget for harvesting directories but not for pages.

> I think I may be starting to take it personally when people criticize
> lynx, and point out how other text-based browsers have all sorts of
> features it lacks. Lynx predates them all. For years, it was *the*
> web browser, with perhaps Mosaic coming in handy when you wanted to look
> at a "fancy" site. For someone who has gotten so used to just typing
> "lynx http://blah/" when he wants to visit a website, it's actually
> quite good enough (though I admit that at this point I rarely use
> Lynx myself, except to verify that a web page I've created renders
> as intended in a text-only interface). At this point, unless someone
> designs a text-based web browser that can handle JavaScript, the way
> it seems web page "developpers" are going, text-based browsers will
> only be good enough to let the reader know there's an image, a link,
> and a couple of frames on any given page. oh! and that it expects you
> to keep a cookie, for a simple one-time search!

I stopped using lynx because it murder(ed)(s) css and table
layouts. Which makes some pages completely unreadable.

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