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I'm trying to set the SeaMonkey default application for this url:

http://media.libsyn.com/media/linuxr...reality099.ogg

It is a podcast by Chess Griffin that gives a good plug for Slackware
and Slackbuilds.

I played the podcast OK like this:

xine -V xshm http://media.libsyn.com/media/linuxr...reality099.ogg

but clicking on the link I found at

http://www.linuxreality.com/

didn't work well. Actually, this raises a bunch of questions, not just
the one I asked above. But let's stick to just the one question for
now.

I'm using Seamonkey. Clicking on the link didn't work well. It opened
the target using xine which is OK, but it did so with poor (scrambled)
video. I think it (xine) was trying to put some artistic mood-pictures
of its own making with the words.

It is annoying when things don't work right, so I tried to find where
SeaMonkey invokes xine. That's where I got really annoyed. I went to
SeaMonkey's "Edit; Preferences...; Navigator; Helper Applications", but
nowhere in that window is xine invoked.

There was one entry for "application/ogg". It was set to invoke
/usr/bin/ogg123 for extension ogg. I removed this application from the
list, but still xine opened. That makes sense, since it wasn't set to
/invoke xine anyway.

Another entry was for "audio/mpeg". It was set to "open using the
default application". There the steam started to come out of my ears
wtf is the "default application"?

OK I would rtfm, but a few minutes looking could not produce any
documentation. Neither in the distribution or on on-line at
www.mozilla.org. I also tried the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup,
but sadly my newsserver doesn't support it (or so it says to me).

I also spent some time googling for

+seamonkey +"default application"

Thus, I've been reduced to asking for your help.

-Joe

P.S. OK, you might have noticed that I used "-V xshm" above. I edited
my ~/.xine/config to change "#video.driver:auto" to
"video.driver:xshm". Now I an invoke the url from the command line
without "-V xshm", but still it gives scrambled video when I click on
the link in SeaMonkey. What gives? Why isn't ogg123 invoked? Oops, I
said I would stick to just the first question. Anyway, you might be
helped so see what motivated my question.

On Sat, 03 May 2008 06:07:34 +0000, Joseph Rosevear wrote:

> I'm trying to set the SeaMonkey default application for this url:
>
> http://media.libsyn.com/media/linuxr...reality099.ogg

I don't know if this helps but I had similar problems in Mozilla. The
MIME-types just work they don't show up in preferences.

So I looked on the Mozilla website about MIME-types. They do tell you
where they are stored. But finding the files and editing by hand is a
pain in the ass. So I downloaded a plugin called MIME-edit. This enabled
me to solve some of these issues. I notice that by Google search that
such a plugin exists for Seamonkey too. So maybe it might help solve your
problem.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/4498

Also you are not looking for "default application handlers" you are
looking for "default MIME-type application handlers" or something.

Type this into your web browser.
aboutlugins
And it should show you what most of the current plugin handlers are and
how they are invoked.

Richard James
--
sig fail on line -1

On Sat, 03 May 2008 06:07:34 +0000, Joseph Rosevear wrote:

> I'm trying to set the SeaMonkey default application for this url:
>
> http://media.libsyn.com/media/linuxr...reality099.ogg
>
> It is a podcast by Chess Griffin that gives a good plug for Slackware
> and Slackbuilds.
>
> I played the podcast OK like this:
>
> xine -V xshm
> http://media.libsyn.com/media/linuxr...reality099.ogg
>
> but clicking on the link I found at
>
> http://www.linuxreality.com/
>
> didn't work well. Actually, this raises a bunch of questions, not just
> the one I asked above. But let's stick to just the one question for
> now.
>
> I'm using Seamonkey. Clicking on the link didn't work well. It opened
> the target using xine which is OK, but it did so with poor (scrambled)
> video. I think it (xine) was trying to put some artistic mood-pictures
> of its own making with the words.
>
> It is annoying when things don't work right, so I tried to find where
> SeaMonkey invokes xine. That's where I got really annoyed. I went to
> SeaMonkey's "Edit; Preferences...; Navigator; Helper Applications", but
> nowhere in that window is xine invoked.
>
> There was one entry for "application/ogg". It was set to invoke
> /usr/bin/ogg123 for extension ogg. I removed this application from the
> list, but still xine opened. That makes sense, since it wasn't set to
> /invoke xine anyway.
>
> Another entry was for "audio/mpeg". It was set to "open using the
> default application". There the steam started to come out of my ears
> wtf is the "default application"?
>
> OK I would rtfm, but a few minutes looking could not produce any
> documentation. Neither in the distribution or on on-line at
> www.mozilla.org. I also tried the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup,
> but sadly my newsserver doesn't support it (or so it says to me).
>
> I also spent some time googling for
>
> +seamonkey +"default application"
>
> Thus, I've been reduced to asking for your help.
>
> -Joe
>
> P.S. OK, you might have noticed that I used "-V xshm" above. I edited
> my ~/.xine/config to change "#video.driver:auto" to "video.driver:xshm".
> Now I an invoke the url from the command line without "-V xshm", but
> still it gives scrambled video when I click on the link in SeaMonkey.
> What gives? Why isn't ogg123 invoked? Oops, I said I would stick to
> just the first question. Anyway, you might be helped so see what
> motivated my question.

I got that problem solved by using mplayer and the mplayer-plugin for
mozilla/firefox. Xine is a total waste of time and effort compared to
Mplayer. Let the flame wars start.

On 2008-05-03, GuestUser <guestuser@mailer-fake.org> wrote:

> I got that problem solved by using mplayer and the mplayer-plugin for
> mozilla/firefox. Xine is a total waste of time and effort compared to
> Mplayer. Let the flame wars start.

I'm going to try mplayer, but until then, I added the VLC plug-in to
mozilla. Not a perfect solution, yet, but worked on mpegs, initially.

nb

On Sat, 03 May 2008 12:11:05 +0000, GuestUser wrote:

> On Sat, 03 May 2008 06:07:34 +0000, Joseph Rosevear wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to set the SeaMonkey default application for this url:
>>
>> http://media.libsyn.com/media/linuxr...reality099.ogg
>>
>> It is a podcast by Chess Griffin that gives a good plug for Slackware
>> and Slackbuilds.
>>
>> I played the podcast OK like this:
>>
>> xine -V xshm
>> http://media.libsyn.com/media/linuxr...reality099.ogg
>>
>> but clicking on the link I found at
>>
>> http://www.linuxreality.com/
>>
>> didn't work well. Actually, this raises a bunch of questions, not just
>> the one I asked above. But let's stick to just the one question for
>> now.
>>
>> I'm using Seamonkey. Clicking on the link didn't work well. It opened
>> the target using xine which is OK, but it did so with poor (scrambled)
>> video. I think it (xine) was trying to put some artistic mood-pictures
>> of its own making with the words.
>>
>> It is annoying when things don't work right, so I tried to find where
>> SeaMonkey invokes xine. That's where I got really annoyed. I went to
>> SeaMonkey's "Edit; Preferences...; Navigator; Helper Applications", but
>> nowhere in that window is xine invoked.
>>
>> There was one entry for "application/ogg". It was set to invoke
>> /usr/bin/ogg123 for extension ogg. I removed this application from the
>> list, but still xine opened. That makes sense, since it wasn't set to
>> /invoke xine anyway.
>>
>> Another entry was for "audio/mpeg". It was set to "open using the
>> default application". There the steam started to come out of my ears
>> wtf is the "default application"?
>>
>> OK I would rtfm, but a few minutes looking could not produce any
>> documentation. Neither in the distribution or on on-line at
>> www.mozilla.org. I also tried the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup,
>> but sadly my newsserver doesn't support it (or so it says to me).
>>
>> I also spent some time googling for
>>
>> +seamonkey +"default application"
>>
>> Thus, I've been reduced to asking for your help.
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> P.S. OK, you might have noticed that I used "-V xshm" above. I edited
>> my ~/.xine/config to change "#video.driver:auto" to
>> "video.driver:xshm".
>> Now I an invoke the url from the command line without "-V xshm", but
>> still it gives scrambled video when I click on the link in SeaMonkey.
>> What gives? Why isn't ogg123 invoked? Oops, I said I would stick to
>> just the first question. Anyway, you might be helped so see what
>> motivated my question.
>
> I got that problem solved by using mplayer and the mplayer-plugin for
> mozilla/firefox. Xine is a total waste of time and effort compared to
> Mplayer. Let the flame wars start.

I'll have to agree. XINE/gxine drives me nuts as it "kinda works, sometimes for some things" but
mplayer has never let me down - either on Slackware or SLAMD64. Besides, the UI for xine sucks and
gxine isn't any better.

King Beowulf wrote:
>
> I'll have to agree. XINE/gxine drives me nuts as it "kinda works, sometimes for some things" but
> mplayer has never let me down - either on Slackware or SLAMD64. Besides, the UI for xine sucks and
> gxine isn't any better.

Since I upgraded to 12, I've had nothing but problems with it. I tell firefox to use
Gxine my X goes South to login. Xine just stares back at me and dares me to just try
it buster, just try it--I don't, I'm too afraid. It's way beyond my skill level to
try to fix anythng anymore. I'm reduced to putting nuts on bolts and getting them
cross threaded.
--
Bud

Richard James <rjames@invalid.com> wrote:

[snip]

> I don't know if this helps but I had similar problems in Mozilla. The
> MIME-types just work they don't show up in preferences.

> So I looked on the Mozilla website about MIME-types. They do tell you
> where they are stored. But finding the files and editing by hand is a
> pain in the ass. So I downloaded a plugin called MIME-edit. This enabled
> me to solve some of these issues. I notice that by Google search that
> such a plugin exists for Seamonkey too. So maybe it might help solve your
> problem.

> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/4498

> Also you are not looking for "default application handlers" you are
> looking for "default MIME-type application handlers" or something.

> Type this into your web browser.
> aboutlugins
> And it should show you what most of the current plugin handlers are and
> how they are invoked.

> Richard James
> --
> sig fail on line -1

Richard,

Thanks. This is helpful.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do, however. I looked at Lynx to see
what it does. I really long for the simplicity of Lynx. Modern
browsers have to appeal to the masses, it seems. Lynx doesn't quite do
what I want, but at least I can configure it to play the ogg file.

I tried the Mime-edit plugin for Seamonkey that your recommended. I
nervously clicked on the choice to cause it to install. The install
failed. I think the message said something about a "start file".
Hmmm. I don't like installing this way. I like Slackware packages,
other ways of installing leave me without a nice record of what has
been done and leave me unsure about how to uninstall.

I'm having idle thoughts about Lynx. Can it do streaming? It seems it
must download the ogg file first before playing it. Is there a
graphical version of Lynx? You don't have to answer these questions.
I'm just wondering.

Thanks for your help.

-Joe

On Sat, 03 May 2008 20:36:12 +0000, notbob wrote:

>> I got that problem solved by using mplayer and the mplayer-plugin for
>> mozilla/firefox. Xine is a total waste of time and effort compared to
>> Mplayer. Let the flame wars start.

> I'm going to try mplayer, but until then, I added the VLC plug-in to
> mozilla. Not a perfect solution, yet, but worked on mpegs, initially.

I never have used the gxine plugin. All you have to do is delete it from
your plugins file.

I also do not use a common plugins file or Slack compiled Mozilla and
derivatives.

I just use stock tarballs from mozilla.org. I also build mplayer and use
mplayer-plugin with no problems at all.

However...on version 12 I had problems compiling mplayer. Finally I gave
up and just copied my precompiled versions built on 11 and dropped in
the plugin - It all worked perfectly.

Mplayer is a bit fickle about compiler and lib versions.

Realplayer 10 has never worked for me though. I use version 8 of that.
When I compile mplayer I disable the real codecs.

--
Email - rsgibson@verizon.borg
Replace borg with net
I've hit rock bottom and have started to dig.

In article <481eb050$0$90269$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>,
Joseph Rosevear <joe@max.hopto.org> wrote:

> Is there a graphical version of Lynx?

No, but there is a graphical version of Links. See the -g option in 'man
links' for more information.

- M.

On Sun, 04 May 2008 22:37:07 +0000, Bud wrote:

> Since I upgraded to 12, I've had nothing but problems with it. I tell
> firefox to use Gxine my X goes South to login.

Don't try to blame _me_ for it!