Hello slack fans,
I'm building our new server and, as usual since 1993..., my
distro choice is slackware.

I have problems setting up quotas on the default file system:
reiserfs.

Just adding 'usrquota,grpquota' to /etc/fstab options does not
help, neither loading quota_v2 in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules...

In fact I could NOT find any real hint about reiserfs with
quota on slack10.


I can't believe Patrick choosed ReiserFS as default fs without
creating the built-in ability to impose quotas. In fact slack
is meant to be a rock-solid server environment, right?

My guess is that some documentation in the distro is missing,
at least, I hope.



Thanks and regards to all of you,
Ciao nIc
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Nicola Pedrozzi wrote:

> Just adding 'usrquota,grpquota' to /etc/fstab options does not
> help, neither loading quota_v2 in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules...
> In fact I could NOT find any real hint about reiserfs with
> quota on slack10.

i haven't used quotas with reiserfs under 2.4.x kernel; however, i have used
them on 2.6.x kernel, and they work just fine. if you want, i can provide
my .config

however, let's start from the beginning:

a) when you issue the 'mount' command, do you see your filesystem with those
quota options?
b) did you create aquota.user and aquota.group files on that filesystem? if
so, do they have correct permissions? if so, did they grow from 0 size to
something bigger, after mounting?

> I can't believe Patrick choosed ReiserFS as default fs without
> creating the built-in ability to impose quotas. In fact slack
> is meant to be a rock-solid server environment, right?

rock-solid does not mean it has to have <insert some extra additional
functionality>. rock-solid means it's solid, it doesn't break.

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Nicola Pedrozzi dared to utter,
> I have problems setting up quotas on the default file system:
> reiserfs.
>
> Just adding 'usrquota,grpquota' to /etc/fstab options does not
> help, neither loading quota_v2 in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules...

Have you googled at all? A basic search for "reiserfs quota" tells me
you have to have a patched kernel to make reiserfs quota friendly. Have
yo tried to find a kernel patch? (Note that may no longer be
neccesary).

> In fact I could NOT find any real hint about reiserfs with
> quota on slack10.

Where did you look?

> I can't believe Patrick choosed ReiserFS as default fs without
> creating the built-in ability to impose quotas.

Why not? Journaling is a big deal to a lot of people. User quoatas
aren't.

> In fact slack
> is meant to be a rock-solid server environment, right?

Typical mistake. Some one that's been using Slackware as his
distribution of choice since 1993 would know better. Slackware is meant
to be a stable, easy-to-use GNU/Linux OS. It is not focused on any
particular role such as server or desktop. What version of Slackware
did you start with anyhow?

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+Alan Hicks+ wrote:

> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Nicola Pedrozzi dared to utter,
....
>> In fact slack
>> is meant to be a rock-solid server environment, right?
>
> Typical mistake. Some one that's been using Slackware as his
> distribution of choice since 1993 would know better. Slackware is meant
> to be a stable, easy-to-use GNU/Linux OS. It is not focused on any
> particular role such as server or desktop. What version of Slackware
> did you start with anyhow?
>
Yeah. It's meant to be rock-solid, but I concur with +Alan Hicks+ here;
and in fact, have been using Slack on this desktop almost exclusively
since I started learning how to tweak it. :-)

Cheers!
Rich

> i haven't used quotas with reiserfs under 2.4.x kernel; however, i have used
> them on 2.6.x kernel, and they work just fine. if you want, i can provide
> my .config
>
> however, let's start from the beginning:
>
> a) when you issue the 'mount' command, do you see your filesystem with those
> quota options?
> b) did you create aquota.user and aquota.group files on that filesystem? if
> so, do they have correct permissions? if so, did they grow from 0 size to
> something bigger, after mounting?
>

I'd like to stick with the longer-life 2.4 kernel 'cause I'm building a
server with stability as one of the first goal.

Actually I know all the details about 'mount', quota files and so on;
just adding 'usrquota,grpquota' to the options in /etc/fstab make the
fs umountable, guess for luck of support for such options.


Thanks nIc
______________________________

Nicola Pedrozzi
IT Manager
Oval engineering sagl
Via Daro 6a
CH-6500 Bellinzona

nikita@oval.ch
nikita@swissgalaxy.ch
Tel: +41 91 825 42 85
Fax: +41 91 826 12 34

http://www.oval.ch
http://www.immogalaxy.ch

> Have you googled at all? A basic search for "reiserfs quota" tells me
> you have to have a patched kernel to make reiserfs quota friendly. Have
> yo tried to find a kernel patch? (Note that may no longer be
> neccesary).

Of course I did googled ..., I know there are patches for older kernel
on the SUSE ftp site, but these are for older kernel (2.4.25 or .21 was
the newest I found).


>>In fact I could NOT find any real hint about reiserfs with
>>quota on slack10.
>
>
> Where did you look?

I checked man pages, /usr/doc, slack site and groups.


>>I can't believe Patrick choosed ReiserFS as default fs without
>>creating the built-in ability to impose quotas.
>
>
> Why not? Journaling is a big deal to a lot of people. User quoatas
> aren't.
>
>
>>In fact slack
>>is meant to be a rock-solid server environment, right?

OK, rock-solid server, desktop, notebook environment... ;^)


> Typical mistake. Some one that's been using Slackware as his
> distribution of choice since 1993 would know better. Slackware is meant
> to be a stable, easy-to-use GNU/Linux OS. It is not focused on any
> particular role such as server or desktop.

Don't want to make it a story... but, this is an extract from the
official announcement of slack 10, from Patrick:

-> From the beginning, Slackware has offered a stable and secure Linux
-> distribution for UNIX veterans as well as an easy-to-use system for
-> beginners. Slackware includes everything you'll need to run a
-> powerful server or workstation. <-


to me, a powerful server, means a system with all the necessary
elementary tools for a server and quota is as such (at least for me)


> What version of Slackware did you start with anyhow?
>

Ughh, I don't remember Slackware version (??), but it was kernel 0.99.?,
life was much harder than today ... ;^)



Thanks anyway,
nIc
______________________________

Nicola Pedrozzi
IT Manager
Oval engineering sagl
Via Daro 6a
CH-6500 Bellinzona

nikita@oval.ch
nikita@swissgalaxy.ch
Tel: +41 91 825 42 85
Fax: +41 91 826 12 34

http://www.oval.ch
http://www.immogalaxy.ch

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Nicola Pedrozzi dared to utter,
> to me, a powerful server, means a system with all the necessary
> elementary tools for a server and quota is as such (at least for me)

Doesn't Slackware ship with quota? Just because it defaults to
resiserfs doesn't mean reiserfs is best for what you want to do. If
you're going to use quota, it's your reponsibility to ensure that
quotas work with your filesystem.

It's my understanding that quoatas work with reiserfs in the 2.6
kernel.

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Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Hello everybody,
I managed to have quota on slack 10 with reiserfs.

The solution:

.. download all the patches found in

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mason/...logging/2.4.25

they are supposed to work both for 2.4.26 and 2.4.27; for me, they
didn't work on 2.4.26, there were some compiling errors, so I gave up
and

.. downloaded kernel 2.4.27

.. patch the kernel with the above patches

.. compile/install/modules/initrd/reboot

.. now I have quota, I hope it will be stable enough.


Cheers,
Bye nIc
______________________________

Nicola Pedrozzi
IT Manager
Oval engineering sagl
Via Daro 6a
CH-6500 Bellinzona

nikita@oval.ch
nikita@swissgalaxy.ch
Tel: +41 91 825 42 85
Fax: +41 91 826 12 34

http://www.oval.ch
http://www.immogalaxy.ch

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Nicola Pedrozzi dared to utter,
> I managed to have quota on slack 10 with reiserfs.

Most excellent work. Good job, and thanks for the mini-HOWTO.

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