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#11 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:32:27 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:

>> Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A lot
>> of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of / ). I'd
>> suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem solved.

> Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
> really wasting space.
>
> [duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
> /dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
> /dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
> /dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
> /dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
> tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm

That's fine, if you intend to split out all those partitions like that. I
would have to guess that most folks don't do that. For example, I split
out swap and /home, but nothing else, and therefore my / partition would
have to be quite large (to accommodate /var, /usr, /opt, etc, etc.). My
answer to the OP was intended for him to correct his problem, as he
clearly doesn't seperate all those partitions.

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#12 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:40:20 +0000, Giovanni wrote:

> 100 MB are more than enough for a root partition in a (almost) full
> installation if you put /boot, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var on
> different ones.

Bzzzzzxt!

[root@einstein /]# du -sk bin boot dev etc lib root sbin
7756 bin
25052 boot
2572 dev
10948 etc
182560 lib
168 root
13976 sbin

#13 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

On 2008-04-30, Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:32:27 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:
>
>> Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
>> really wasting space.
>>
>> [duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
>> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>> /dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
>> /dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
>> /dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
>> /dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
>> /dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
>> tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm
>
> That's fine, if you intend to split out all those partitions like that. I
> would have to guess that most folks don't do that. For example, I split
> out swap and /home, but nothing else, and therefore my / partition would
> have to be quite large (to accommodate /var, /usr, /opt, etc, etc.). My
> answer to the OP was intended for him to correct his problem, as he
> clearly doesn't seperate all those partitions.

Yes, but he does have a separate /usr (and IIRC /home), and assuming
that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
/opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling
up /, he should split that out now rather than using a 5GB /.

--keith

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#14 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>
> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling

I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
partition now days because I found some other uses for it....

- Kurt

#15 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

~kurt <actinouranium@earthlink.net> says:
>Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>>
>> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
>> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling

>I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
>put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
>partition now days because I found some other uses for it....

The secret was to keep /opt on the outside rings of the hard drive,
where the bits are longer.

cordially, as always,

rm

#16 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

On 2008-05-01, ~kurt <actinouranium@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>>
>> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
>> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling
>
> I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
> put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
> partition now days because I found some other uses for it....

mv /opt /usr
mkdir /usr/opt
mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
(and add the appropriate fstab line)

/usr is going to be a larger partition, and both /usr and /opt hold the
same type stuff, so there's not generally a good reason to have both.

-RW

#17 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

On 2008-05-01, Robby Workman <newsgroups@rlworkman.net> wrote:
>
> mv /opt /usr
> mkdir /usr/opt

ITYM
mkdir /opt

> mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
> (and add the appropriate fstab line)

I prefer

mv /opt /usr
ln -s /usr/opt /opt

No extra mount involved.

--keith

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#18 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

OK, I'm up to my xth time of installing Slack 12. Partitioning:
/dev/hda1: / 5 GB, /dev/hda2: swap 64MB (RAM: 32MB), /dev/hda3: /usr 10
GB, /dev/hda4: /home (rest of disk). Installing only the necessary
packages, leaving out X, audio/video and games. Leaving in some compiler
and programming packages. At some point (right now: installing ruby) it
says:

Killed
root@slackware:/# Killed
Killed
(no prompt, just cursor)

System doesn't hang. Alt-F2 screen:

df:

/: 2%
/usr 8%
/home: 2%

Any clue what's happening?

Thanks.

#19 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

On Thu, 01 May 2008 17:03:29 +0200, Huub wrote:

> OK, I'm up to my xth time of installing Slack 12. Partitioning:
> /dev/hda1: / 5 GB, /dev/hda2: swap 64MB (RAM: 32MB), /dev/hda3: /usr 10
> GB, /dev/hda4: /home (rest of disk). Installing only the necessary
> packages, leaving out X, audio/video and games. Leaving in some compiler
> and programming packages. At some point (right now: installing ruby) it
> says:
>
> Killed
> root@slackware:/# Killed
> Killed
> (no prompt, just cursor)
>
> System doesn't hang. Alt-F2 screen:
>
> df:
>
> /: 2%
> /usr 8%
> /home: 2%
>
> Any clue what's happening?

My guess would be not enough RAM. Somehow I think I remember newer
versions of Slack requiring 64Mb, but not certain.

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#20 (**permalink**) 05-02-2008, 05:04 AM

On 2008-05-01, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
> On 2008-05-01, Robby Workman <newsgroups@rlworkman.net> wrote:
>>
>> mv /opt /usr
>> mkdir /usr/opt
>
> ITYM
> mkdir /opt

Indeed I did - thanks.

>> mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
>> (and add the appropriate fstab line)
>
> I prefer
>
> mv /opt /usr
> ln -s /usr/opt /opt
>
> No extra mount involved.

I recall some issue (but no specifics) that something had with the
symlink. It could have been backups, or it could have been something
else - I don't remember now, as I've been doing that since 11.0.
Either one is fine for most people, but the bind mount is best IMHO.

-RW

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