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Old 02-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Mark Hill
 
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Default slackware 9.1 beta review

There's a review of 9.1 beta over at osnews.com.

'Get to Know Slackware 9.1'
<URL:http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4637>

Overall, it's very positive, with the author preferring Slackware over
other distributions she has tried.

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Joost Kremers
 
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Default Re: slackware 9.1 beta review

Mark Hill wrote:
> There's a review of 9.1 beta over at osnews.com.
>
> 'Get to Know Slackware 9.1'
> <URL:http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4637>
>
> Overall, it's very positive, with the author preferring Slackware over
> other distributions she has tried.


mmm... i have mixed feelings:

"(...) I would like to see more graphical administration tools to be included on
Slackware, (...)"

ugh... luckily, she refers mainly to admin tools for specific programs,
(for which the slackware philosophy is of course DIY) but she also mentions
the Gnome System Tools. (no idea what that is, but it sounds like it is
meant to configure the system itself, not just Gnome.)

-----

Installation: 6/10
Hardware Support: 7.5/10
Ease of use: 7/10
Features: 8/10
Credibility: 10/10 (stability, bugs, security)
Speed: 8.5/10 (throughput, UI responsiveness, latency)

-----

of course the only one of these points that is truly relevant is what she
calls credibility. luckily its 10/10 for that one! ;-)

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since when is vi an editor? a discussion on vi belongs in
comp.tools.unusable or something... ;-)
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Niko
 
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Default Re: slackware 9.1 beta review

Mark Hill wrote/ecrivait:
> There's a review of 9.1 beta over at osnews.com.
> 'Get to Know Slackware 9.1'
><URL:http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4637>
> Overall, it's very positive, with the author preferring Slackware over
> other distributions she has tried.


"slackware effect"(C):

you hear anywhere that it is a complicated system, because
you have to read plenty of manuals, deal with unix subtleties - then you free
three, four hours of your time highly motivated, with printed docs etc.
After ten minutes it is simply installed, and *well configured* (laptop w.
nvidia GeForce, no additional configuration, it works).

The feeling I had, with debian and others is that you have to read docs to
understand the _distribution_ system first, and then the software specific doc.

I must say, I don't like the dependencies-pkg systems. Makes life easier? not
sure. Coders should do simple code, simple code does'nt mean linking a library
for one call - so simple codes don't require plenty of dependencies with
different version levels etc.

Slackware is a concept!
a very good one for computing.

Note: about the link you post, I am happy.. and sad to see that the author
receives as much spams as I do

N

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Merlin
 
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Mark Hill wrote:

> There's a review of 9.1 beta over at osnews.com.
>
> 'Get to Know Slackware 9.1'
> <URL:http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4637>
>
> Overall, it's very positive, with the author preferring Slackware over
> other distributions she has tried.
>


Funny that she found multimedia support "not so great" in Slack, and I'm
using my Slack boxes precisely for video capturing (via a v4l capture card
-- it fails miserably under Mandrake), video/audio editing and burning
DVDs. Go figure... :-)

Best,
Merl
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Keith Keller
 
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On 2003-09-24, Joost Kremers <joostkremers@yahoo.com> wrote:
> -----
>
> Installation: 6/10
> Hardware Support: 7.5/10
> Ease of use: 7/10
> Features: 8/10
> Credibility: 10/10 (stability, bugs, security)
> Speed: 8.5/10 (throughput, UI responsiveness, latency)
>
> -----
>
> of course the only one of these points that is truly relevant is what she
> calls credibility. luckily its 10/10 for that one! ;-)


I disagree--installation is also unique to Slackware, and its ease
should be judged against other distros (unlike hardware support, for
example, which is done by the kernel). Now, we can disagree with her
rating all we like (I know I do!), but if Slackware were extremely
difficult to install compared to other distros--for example, if it still
required 14 floppies!--I'm not sure how many of us would still use it.

--keith

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:38 AM
An OutSider
 
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Default Re: slackware 9.1 beta review

Merlin wrote:

> Mark Hill wrote:
>
> > There's a review of 9.1 beta over at osnews.com.
> >
> > 'Get to Know Slackware 9.1'
> > <URL:http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4637>
> >
> > Overall, it's very positive, with the author preferring Slackware over
> > other distributions she has tried.
> >

>
> Funny that she found multimedia support "not so great" in Slack, and I'm
> using my Slack boxes precisely for video capturing (via a v4l capture card
> -- it fails miserably under Mandrake), video/audio editing and burning
> DVDs. Go figure... :-)
>
> Best,
> Merl


Well,
I had to do it myself and install MPlayer because there was no movie player in
Slack 9.0. OTOH, lots of MP3 players. All in all, Slack is pretty stable,
secure, and easy to use once you dwell into the *nix concept. I pretty much love
it after 9 months of enjoyable playtime, coming from Mandrake.

Like football and religion, don't waste your time replying to this )

An OutSider

(Another Slack lover)


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Old 02-18-2008, 11:39 AM
Bartosz Oudekerk
 
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typed the following text on 2003-09-24:

> There's a review of 9.1 beta over at osnews.com.
>
> 'Get to Know Slackware 9.1'
><URL:http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4637>
>
> Overall, it's very positive, with the author preferring Slackware over
> other distributions she has tried.
>

<quote>
Slackware is my new favorite operating system along with FreeBSD,
Windows Server 2003 and Mac OS X
</quote>

Only considering the major ones, that leaves only AIX, Solaris and
HP-UX to not like?

<quote>
Hardware Support: 7.5/10
</quote>

And there I was, thinking hardware support was in the kernel, not the
distro... <shaking head> ...silly me... <shaking head>

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:39 AM
George Georgakis
 
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Bartosz Oudekerk <tyranas@Lappie.bartosz.xs4all.nl> wrote:

> <quote>
> Hardware Support: 7.5/10
> </quote>
>
> And there I was, thinking hardware support was in the kernel, not the
> distro... <shaking head> ...silly me... <shaking head>


Hardware support _does_ differ between distributions, depending on the
choices distributors make when they compile their base kernels. IOW:
Yes, the support's in the kernel. But has the support been enabled in
each distribution you may be talking about?

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:39 AM
Bartosz Oudekerk
 
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> Bartosz Oudekerk <tyranas@Lappie.bartosz.xs4all.nl> wrote:
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>> <quote>
>> Hardware Support: 7.5/10
>> </quote>
>>
>> And there I was, thinking hardware support was in the kernel, not the
>> distro... <shaking head> ...silly me... <shaking head>

>
> Hardware support _does_ differ between distributions, depending on the
> choices distributors make when they compile their base kernels. IOW:
> Yes, the support's in the kernel. But has the support been enabled in
> each distribution you may be talking about?
>

Yes, but most standard kernels are pretty much the same, only more
exotic hardware usually requires a kernel recompile. I don't think
bare.i differs much from RH base kernel (apart from their 2.5 back
porting), could anyone actively using RH confirm that?

Plus, hardware support *is* equal, it just might be a bit harder to get
it to work, through a kernel-recompile for example.

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:39 AM
Leonard the Committed
 
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Default Re: slackware 9.1 beta review

Having some kind of wizard thingy to set up hardware is nice, to an extent.
I've yet to see Redhat, Mandrake or a few other smaller distro's I've
tried pick up and identify my SB16 PCI card properly. Granted, it's a bit
dated but isn't a SB16 kinda like STANDARD? Having your Generic-as-all
-get-out NVIDIA GeForce 2 picked up as some wacky other card seems odd
too.

Anyhow as a Slackware user I know where to go to fix those kind of things.
When I use alot of other distro's, you have to look for some boxes
somewhere to point and crunt on to fix these little things. Geez, Mandrake
did'nt even have MC installed as default in a "gimme it all" install.
What do you do when the Wizard cant cast a proper spell?

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