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Hello,

Where can I get a GRP CD for 2006.0? I know the live CD has some GRP
packages, but it misses KDE (one of the most used desktops) and some
other applications, which makes it impossible to have a basic desktop
Gentoo installation completed in less than one day.

If there is no GRP CD, what about creating a 2006.0 live DVD with much
more GRPs?

--
Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG)
Lisbon, Portugal
Homepage: <http://njsg.no.sapo.pt/>
Registered Linux User #402207 - http://counter.li.org

Using Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7
Gentoo Linux -- Linux 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686 Mobile Pentium II
Intel Pentium II (80686) Deschutes - 334Mhz -- 256 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Mobile Pentium II (80686) - 300 Mhz -- 64 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Pentium (80586) - 166 Mhz -- 32 Mbs RAM

-=-=-
``Even when we know we'll never find the answers, we have to keep on
asking questions.''
-- Allie Keys, Taken

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Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Where can I get a GRP CD for 2006.0? I know the live CD has some GRP
> packages, but it misses KDE (one of the most used desktops) and some
> other applications, which makes it impossible to have a basic desktop
> Gentoo installation completed in less than one day.
>
> If there is no GRP CD, what about creating a 2006.0 live DVD with much
> more GRPs?
>
I second that, it would be nice to have a little more choice. Also the
2006.0 installer never worked for me while the beta installer did.

--
Ties And remember kids: always reply inline, or
http://tknet.nl/ Sinterklaas will kidnap and molest you!
ties.koot@gmail.com http://tknet.nl/nntp/reply/inline/

Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) <nunojsg@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)

Indeed. And you might want to adjust your news posting settings so that the
text body goes into the *body* and not a multi-part attachment, else you
exclude readers that doesn't do attachments from seeing the rest of your
post and answering whatever question you have.

Regards,
--
*Art

On Saturday 24 June 2006 15:21, Arthur Hagen stood up and spoke the
following words to the masses in /alt.os.linux.gentoo...:/

> Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) <nunojsg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
>
> Indeed. And you might want to adjust your news posting settings so
> that the text body goes into the *body* and not a multi-part
> attachment, else you exclude readers that doesn't do attachments from
> seeing the rest of your post and answering whatever question you have.

For the record, his text was all in the message body in my newsreader.
The only attachment I got to see was a file with an OpenPGP signature.

Your mileage may vary, of course. ;-)

--
With kind regards,

*Aragorn*
(Registered GNU/Linux user # 223157)

Aragorn <stryder@telenet.invalid> wrote:
> On Saturday 24 June 2006 15:21, Arthur Hagen stood up and spoke the
> following words to the masses in /alt.os.linux.gentoo...:/
>
>> Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) <nunojsg@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
>>
>> Indeed. And you might want to adjust your news posting settings so
>> that the text body goes into the *body* and not a multi-part
>> attachment, else you exclude readers that doesn't do attachments from
>> seeing the rest of your post and answering whatever question you
>> have.
>
> For the record, his text was all in the message body in my newsreader.

That was your newsreader rendering the plain text attachment as if it was
the body. If you look at the source of the post, you'll see:

Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;
protocol="application/pgp-signature";
boundary="------------enigD9EB8E4DAC0E6B222D8E09BE"
[...]

This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
--------------enigD9EB8E4DAC0E6B222D8E09BE
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hello,

Where can I get a GRP CD for 2006.0?
[...]


For those not using a newsreader that auto-extracts the attachments and
presents those that are viewable (like your client does), the user either
has to look at the source or save the attachments and look at them that way.
Of course, feel free to do it this way, but it may limit the number of
people who'll actually read the post.

Regards,
--
*Art

A 24-06-2006 13:42, Ties escreveu:
> Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>Where can I get a GRP CD for 2006.0? I know the live CD has some GRP
>>packages, but it misses KDE (one of the most used desktops) and some
>>other applications, which makes it impossible to have a basic desktop
>>Gentoo installation completed in less than one day.
>>
>>If there is no GRP CD, what about creating a 2006.0 live DVD with much
>>more GRPs?
>>
>
> I second that, it would be nice to have a little more choice. Also the
> 2006.0 installer never worked for me while the beta installer did.
>

When I installed Gentoo using this CD, I was only sucessful doing it
with the text-mode installer. And some options don't work. The graphical
installer hung the computer. One of the biggest problems is that it does
not say what is available as GRP and what's not. When I choosed KDE, I
was wondering “why is this too slow?” and then I discovered it was
compiling KDE from sources.

I'll try to build a LiveDVD with KDE packages. If I'm successful, I'll
try to upload the image to somewhere.

I hope I can accomplish this. Do you have some suggestions/requests for
more GRPs?

--
Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG)
Lisbon, Portugal
Homepage: <http://njsg.no.sapo.pt/>
Registered Linux User #402207 - http://counter.li.org

Using Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7
Gentoo Linux -- Linux 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686 Mobile Pentium II
Intel Pentium II (80686) Deschutes - 334Mhz -- 256 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Mobile Pentium II (80686) - 300 Mhz -- 64 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Pentium (80586) - 166 Mhz -- 32 Mbs RAM

-=-=-
``There's always an answer.''
-- Natalie Portman Hershlag, talking about Maths


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A 24-06-2006 23:03, Arthur Hagen escreveu:
| Aragorn <stryder@telenet.invalid> wrote:
|
|> On Saturday 24 June 2006 15:21, Arthur Hagen stood up and spoke the
|> following words to the masses in /alt.os.linux.gentoo...:/
|>
|>> Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) <nunojsg@gmail.com> wrote:
|>>
|>>> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
|>>
|>>
|>> Indeed. And you might want to adjust your news posting settings so
|>> that the text body goes into the *body* and not a multi-part
|>> attachment, else you exclude readers that doesn't do attachments from
|>> seeing the rest of your post and answering whatever question you
|>> have.
|>
|>
|> For the record, his text was all in the message body in my newsreader.
|
|
| That was your newsreader rendering the plain text attachment as if it
| was the body. If you look at the source of the post, you'll see:
|
| Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;
| protocol="application/pgp-signature";
| boundary="------------enigD9EB8E4DAC0E6B222D8E09BE"
| [...]
|
| This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
| --------------enigD9EB8E4DAC0E6B222D8E09BE
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|
| Hello,
|
| Where can I get a GRP CD for 2006.0?
| [...]
|
|
| For those not using a newsreader that auto-extracts the attachments and
| presents those that are viewable (like your client does), the user
| either has to look at the source or save the attachments and look at
| them that way.
| Of course, feel free to do it this way, but it may limit the number of
| people who'll actually read the post.
|
| Regards,

I'm sorry. I think that's happening because I'm using PGP-MIME.

Maybe I'd be better off deactivating it (like I'm doing now with this post).

What newsreader are you using?

- --
Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG)
Lisbon, Portugal
Homepage: <http://njsg.no.sapo.pt/>
Registered Linux User #402207 - http://counter.li.org

Using Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7
Gentoo Linux -- Linux 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686 Mobile Pentium II
Intel Pentium II (80686) Deschutes - 334Mhz -- 256 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Mobile Pentium II (80686) - 300 Mhz -- 64 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Pentium (80586) - 166 Mhz -- 32 Mbs RAM

- -=-=-
You know you need a new housekeeper when: She's great with the food
budget -- but the hamsters are missing and last night's burgers tasted a
bit funky.
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Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) <nunojsg@gmail.com> wrote:
> A 24-06-2006 23:03, Arthur Hagen escreveu:
>>
>> For those not using a newsreader that auto-extracts the attachments
>> and presents those that are viewable (like your client does), the
>> user either has to look at the source or save the attachments and
>> look at them that way.
>> Of course, feel free to do it this way, but it may limit the number
>> of people who'll actually read the post.
>
> I'm sorry. I think that's happening because I'm using PGP-MIME.
>
> Maybe I'd be better off deactivating it (like I'm doing now with this
> post).

Much better! Although the signing still messes up your .sig, which by
convention and RFCs are recommended to be preceded by "-- " and not "- --".
If using "-- ", clients who support it can snip your sig when replying, or
display it differently when reading. No biggie, but I believe it's enigmail
doing this too.
Any need for PGP-signing your posts, except that the functionality is there?
:-)

> What newsreader are you using?

That depends -- if on my laptop, I use Evolution, if on a server, I use pine
or trn, and if on my work PC, I have to use Outlook Express (folks, don't
slam others for using OE, cause sometimes they don't have a choice). And in
rare cases I use telnet to port 119 on my news server. :-)

Regards,
--
*Art

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A 30-06-2006 17:46, Arthur Hagen escreveu:
| Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG) <nunojsg@gmail.com> wrote:
|
|> A 24-06-2006 23:03, Arthur Hagen escreveu:
|>
|>>
|>> For those not using a newsreader that auto-extracts the attachments
|>> and presents those that are viewable (like your client does), the
|>> user either has to look at the source or save the attachments and
|>> look at them that way.
|>> Of course, feel free to do it this way, but it may limit the number
|>> of people who'll actually read the post.
|>
|>
|> I'm sorry. I think that's happening because I'm using PGP-MIME.
|>
|> Maybe I'd be better off deactivating it (like I'm doing now with this
|> post).
|
|
| Much better! Although the signing still messes up your .sig, which by
| convention and RFCs are recommended to be preceded by "-- " and not "-
| --". If using "-- ", clients who support it can snip your sig when
| replying, or display it differently when reading. No biggie, but I
| believe it's enigmail doing this too.
| Any need for PGP-signing your posts, except that the functionality is
| there? :-)

I use it because IMO looking at the “To” field is not enough to see who
sent the message.

|
|> What newsreader are you using?
|
|
| That depends -- if on my laptop, I use Evolution, if on a server, I use
| pine or trn, and if on my work PC, I have to use Outlook Express (folks,
| don't slam others for using OE, cause sometimes they don't have a
| choice). And in rare cases I use telnet to port 119 on my news
| server. :-)
|
| Regards,


- --
Nuno J. Silva (aka NJSG)
Lisbon, Portugal
Homepage: <http://njsg.no.sapo.pt/>
Registered Linux User #402207 - http://counter.li.org

Using Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7
Gentoo Linux -- Linux 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 i686 Mobile Pentium II
Intel Pentium II (80686) Deschutes - 334Mhz -- 256 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Mobile Pentium II (80686) - 300 Mhz -- 64 Mbs SDRAM
Intel Pentium (80586) - 166 Mhz -- 32 Mbs RAM

- -=-=-
``Olho por olho o mundo acabará cego."
~ -- Mahatma Gandhi
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