I bought a Compaq R3000 laptop. The company I bought it from said that
it was an AthlonXp however I ran CPUZ on it and it says that it is a
Athlon 64. I also installed the 32bit version of Gentoo on it and it
appears that the chipset is NForce-3 150.

Screenshot available at:
http://ca.geocities.com/anne.pft@rog...ages/cpuid.bmp

However when I go and run the Gentoo Universal install cd for AMD64. It
gives me the error saying that my computer doesn't support long mode.

Any ideas why CPU-Z says one thing but Gentoo is saying another.
Could it be that the laptop has an AMD64 that has been disabled?
Respond in the newsgroup.
Thanks
Chris

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:18:34 -0500, Chris Tremblay wrote:

> Could it be that the laptop has an AMD64 that has been disabled?

Sounds like its a Sempron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sempron

Look at the description for the 'Paris' variant. That fits exactly to what
you describe seeing.

--
printk("Penguin %d is stuck in the bottle.\n", i);
linux-2.0.38/arch/sparc/kernel/smp.c

Geoff King wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:18:34 -0500, Chris Tremblay wrote:
>
>
>>Could it be that the la.

ptop has an AMD64 that has been disabled?
>
>
> Sounds like its a Sempron.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sempron
>
> Look at the description for the 'Paris' variant. That fits exactly to what
> you describe seeing.
>
Thanks for the reply and the link

Thing is the CPU software recognized it as a ClawHammer.
According to the link in the link you provided all but one of the
Semprons are Socket A and the one that is on the Socket 754 is a faster
model with more L2 Cache.

Is there any software in Gentoo that would tell me more than the one I
ran in Windows?

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:39:26 -0500, Chris Tremblay wrote:

> Thing is the CPU software recognized it as a ClawHammer.
> According to the link in the link you provided all but one of the
> Semprons are Socket A and the one that is on the Socket 754 is a faster
> model with more L2 Cache.

The mystery deepens...

> Is there any software in Gentoo that would tell me more than the one I
> ran in Windows?

cat /proc/cpuinfo

--
printk("Entering UltraSMPenguin Mode...\n");
linux-2.2.16/arch/sparc64/kernel/smp.c

So anyway, it was like, 18:39 CET Feb 12 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Chris Tremblay was all like, "Dude,

> Is there any software in Gentoo that would tell me more than the one
> Iran in Windows?

You can cat /proc/cpuinfo, but I dunno if it'll tell you anything
more.

Here's what an amd64 should look like:

-----8<-----
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 4
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
stepping : 8
cpu MHz : 2002.655
cache size : 1024 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 3932.16
TLB size : 1088 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp
----->8-----

Also, you might glean something from browsing the contents of

<http://www.deater.net/weave/vmwprod/linux_logo/test_proc-14March2004.tar.gz>

(or 'emerge cpuinfo-collection')

Seems abit outdated tho.

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Johan Lindquist wrote:
> So anyway, it was like, 18:39 CET Feb 12 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
> Chris Tremblay was all like, "Dude,
>
>
>>Is there any software in Gentoo that would tell me more than the one
>>Iran in Windows?
>
>
> You can cat /proc/cpuinfo, but I dunno if it'll tell you anything
> more.
>
> Here's what an amd64 should look like:
>
> -----8<-----
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family : 15
> model : 4
> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
> stepping : 8
> cpu MHz : 2002.655
> cache size : 1024 KB
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
> 3dnowext 3dnow
> bogomips : 3932.16
> TLB size : 1088 4K pages
> clflush size : 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp
> ----->8-----
>
> Also, you might glean something from browsing the contents of
>
> <http://www.deater.net/weave/vmwprod/linux_logo/test_proc-14March2004.tar.gz>
>
> (or 'emerge cpuinfo-collection')
>
> Seems abit outdated tho.
>

I would think it was an XP processor but are there any XP processors
that run on an NForce 3 motherboard?

Also what is the difference between a Stepping 8 (yours) and Stepping 10
(mine) and where would you find this out on the net?

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 4
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor 2800+
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 797.878
cache size : 128 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 1576.96

Chris Tremblay wrote:
> Johan Lindquist wrote:
>
>> So anyway, it was like, 18:39 CET Feb 12 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
>> Chris Tremblay was all like, "Dude,
>>
>>
>>> Is there any software in Gentoo that would tell me more than the one
>>> Iran in Windows?
>>
>>
>>
>> You can cat /proc/cpuinfo, but I dunno if it'll tell you anything
>> more.
>>
>> Here's what an amd64 should look like:
>>
>> -----8<-----
>> processor : 0
>> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
>> cpu family : 15
>> model : 4
>> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
>> stepping : 8
>> cpu MHz : 2002.655
>> cache size : 1024 KB
>> fpu : yes
>> fpu_exception : yes
>> cpuid level : 1
>> wp : yes
>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
>> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
>> 3dnowext 3dnow
>> bogomips : 3932.16
>> TLB size : 1088 4K pages
>> clflush size : 64
>> cache_alignment : 64
>> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
>> power management: ts fid vid ttp
>> ----->8-----
>>
>> Also, you might glean something from browsing the contents of
>>
>> <http://www.deater.net/weave/vmwprod/linux_logo/test_proc-14March2004.tar.gz>
>>
>>
>> (or 'emerge cpuinfo-collection')
>>
>> Seems abit outdated tho.
>>
>
> I would think it was an XP processor but are there any XP processors
> that run on an NForce 3 motherboard?
>
> Also what is the difference between a Stepping 8 (yours) and Stepping 10
> (mine) and where would you find this out on the net?
>
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family : 15
> model : 4
> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor 2800+
> stepping : 10
> cpu MHz : 797.878
> cache size : 128 KB
> fdiv_bug : no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug : no
> coma_bug : no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
> cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext 3dnowext
> 3dnow
> bogomips : 1576.96
>

According to this website:
http://www.paradicesoftware.com/specs/cpuid/index.htm
It is Athlon 64, that is what the CPU Family 15 = Extended, Model 4
(Athlon 4). If it was a Model 8 it would be an Opteron

I also have an Athlon XP Barton which is Family 6, Model 10 which
coincides with the table.

The thing it doesn't mention on the table is the XP-M processors. I
wonder what their settings are>?

So anyway, it was like, 19:02 CET Feb 12 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Chris Tremblay was all like, "Dude,

> I would think it was an XP processor but are there any XP processors
> that run on an NForce 3 motherboard?

The blurb on the wiki said it's socket 754 compatible, didn't it? I'm
guessing that would mean you can stick one in any socket 754 chipset.
I'm sure someone who actually knows this stuff will tell us tho.

> Also what is the difference between a Stepping 8 (yours) and
> Stepping 10 (mine) and where would you find this out on the net?

Well.. I.. er.. google?

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Chris Tremblay wrote:
> Chris Tremblay wrote:
>
>> Johan Lindquist wrote:
>>
>>> So anyway, it was like, 18:39 CET Feb 12 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
>>> Chris Tremblay was all like, "Dude,
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there any software in Gentoo that would tell me more than the one
>>>> Iran in Windows?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can cat /proc/cpuinfo, but I dunno if it'll tell you anything
>>> more.
>>>
>>> Here's what an amd64 should look like:
>>>
>>> -----8<-----
>>> processor : 0
>>> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
>>> cpu family : 15
>>> model : 4
>>> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
>>> stepping : 8
>>> cpu MHz : 2002.655
>>> cache size : 1024 KB
>>> fpu : yes
>>> fpu_exception : yes
>>> cpuid level : 1
>>> wp : yes
>>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
>>> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
>>> 3dnowext 3dnow
>>> bogomips : 3932.16
>>> TLB size : 1088 4K pages
>>> clflush size : 64
>>> cache_alignment : 64
>>> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
>>> power management: ts fid vid ttp
>>> ----->8-----
>>>
>>> Also, you might glean something from browsing the contents of
>>>
>>> <http://www.deater.net/weave/vmwprod/linux_logo/test_proc-14March2004.tar.gz>
>>>
>>>
>>> (or 'emerge cpuinfo-collection')
>>>
>>> Seems abit outdated tho.
>>>
>>
>> I would think it was an XP processor but are there any XP processors
>> that run on an NForce 3 motherboard?
>>
>> Also what is the difference between a Stepping 8 (yours) and Stepping
>> 10 (mine) and where would you find this out on the net?
>>
>> processor : 0
>> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
>> cpu family : 15
>> model : 4
>> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor 2800+
>> stepping : 10
>> cpu MHz : 797.878
>> cache size : 128 KB
>> fdiv_bug : no
>> hlt_bug : no
>> f00f_bug : no
>> coma_bug : no
>> fpu : yes
>> fpu_exception : yes
>> cpuid level : 1
>> wp : yes
>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
>> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext
>> 3dnowext 3dnow
>> bogomips : 1576.96
>>
>
> According to this website:
> http://www.paradicesoftware.com/specs/cpuid/index.htm
> It is Athlon 64, that is what the CPU Family 15 = Extended, Model 4
> (Athlon 4). If it was a Model 8 it would be a

n Opteron
>
> I also have an Athlon XP Barton which is Family 6, Model 10 which
> coincides with the table.
>
> The thing it doesn't mention on the table is the XP-M processors. I
> wonder what their settings are>?

I think I figured it out.

There seemed to be two strange things.
1. the CPU speed seemed to be really low
2. the L2 cache was also low.

Did some looking on the weeb and I think this may be the Athlon XP-M. I
went to Compaq's web site and they had a page about the R3000 mhz not
matching up to the reported cpu. This is due to PowerNow where it will
ramp up and down the cpu speed depending on demand. (it seemed to
compile faster than a 700Mhz machine should have)
Also on the same page were specs for the Athlon XP-M 2800+ cpu and it
had the same specs with regards to the cache.

If I took a guess, I think they used the Athlon 64 as a basis for the
Mobile XP and this was an early model.

Just a guess.

Chris Tremblay wrote:
> Chris Tremblay wrote:
>
>> Chris Tremblay wrote:
>>
>>> Johan Lindquist wrote:
>>>
>>>> So anyway, it was like, 18:39 CET Feb 12 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
>>>> Chris Tremblay was all like, "Dude,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any software in Gentoo that would tell me more than the one
>>>>> Iran in Windows?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can cat /proc/cpuinfo, but I dunno if it'll tell you anything
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what an amd64 should look like:
>>>>
>>>> -----8<-----
>>>> processor : 0
>>>> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
>>>> cpu family : 15
>>>> model : 4
>>>> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
>>>> stepping : 8
>>>> cpu MHz : 2002.655
>>>> cache size : 1024 KB
>>>> fpu : yes
>>>> fpu_exception : yes
>>>> cpuid level : 1
>>>> wp : yes
>>>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
>>>> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
>>>> 3dnowext 3dnow
>>>> bogomips : 3932.16
>>>> TLB size : 1088 4K pages
>>>> clflush size : 64
>>>> cache_alignment : 64
>>>> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
>>>> power management: ts fid vid ttp
>>>> ----->8-----
>>>>
>>>> Also, you might glean something from browsing the contents of
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.deater.net/weave/vmwprod/linux_logo/test_proc-14March2004.tar.gz>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (or 'emerge cpuinfo-collection')
>>>>
>>>> Seems abit outdated tho.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would think it was an XP processor but are there any XP processors
>>> that run on an NForce 3 motherboard?
>>>
>>> Also what is the difference between a Stepping 8 (yours) and Stepping
>>> 10 (mine) and where would you find this out on the net?
>>>
>>> processor : 0
>>> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
>>> cpu family : 15
>>> model : 4
>>> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor 2800+
>>> stepping : 10
>>> cpu MHz : 797.878
>>> cache size : 128 KB
>>> fdiv_bug : no
>>> hlt_bug : no
>>> f00f_bug : no
>>> coma_bug : no
>>> fpu : yes
>>> fpu_exception : yes
>>> cpuid level : 1
>>> wp : yes
>>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
>>> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext
>>> 3dnowext 3dnow
>>> bogomips : 1576.96
>>>
>>
>> According to this website:
>> http://www.paradicesoftware.com/specs/cpuid/index.htm
>> It is Athlon 64, that is what the CPU Family 15 = Extended, Model 4
>> (Athlon 4). If it was a Model 8 it would be a
>
>
> n Opteron
>
>>
>> I also have an Athlon XP Barton which is Family 6, Model 10 which
>> coincides with the table.
>>
>> The thing it doesn't mention on the table is the XP-M processors. I
>> wonder what their settings are>?
>
>
> I think I figured it out.
>
> There seemed to be two strange things.
> 1. the CPU speed seemed to be really low
> 2. the L2 cache was also low.
>
> Did some looking on the weeb and I think this may be the Athlon XP-M. I
> went to Compaq's web site and they had a page about the R3000 mhz not
> matching up to the reported cpu. This is due to PowerNow where it will
> ramp up and down the cpu speed depending on demand. (it seemed to
> compile faster than a 700Mhz machine should have)
> Also on the same page were specs for the Athlon XP-M 2800+ cpu and it
> had the same specs with regards to the cache.
>
> If I took a guess, I think they used the Athlon 64 as a basis for the
> Mobile XP and this was an early model.
>
> Just a guess.


Found the following web page:
http://fab51.com/cpu/guide/opn-64-e.html

Essentially the cpu is an Athlon XP-M processor. It is 754 pin and will
work on the NForce 3 chipset. The R3000 laptop can come with a Athlon 64
or I guess the XP-M which would explains it.

Now I wonder if the cpu can be replaced with a AMD 64.....

Thanks again for the help!