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I'm searching the web to solve this but for now without any effect.
this is kernel-independent problem I believe. Problems for sure with alsa
and ptty(?)- not sure what is responsible for xterm or any other term in
X - none of them opens.
when the system starts on both selinux-sources (2.4) and
gentoo-dev-sources (2.6) with the gentoo=nodevfs (and no /dev in the
kernel compiled) I see error "unable to set user font and on the machine
on which I have X (2.6) I cannot enable sound nor open xterm etc. I did
MAKEDEV update in /dev but it says it doesn't know "alsa" and trying to.
How to fix these? god knows what other devices are missing. I found a text
about ./snddevices but I don't have it (it is supposed to be in
alsa-driver which of course I don't have due to kernel 2.6)

PiotrAF enlightened us with:
> when the system starts on both selinux-sources (2.4) and
> gentoo-dev-sources (2.6) with the gentoo=nodevfs (and no /dev in the
> kernel compiled)

Why don't you want devfs? I can only see advantages...

Sybren
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:16:08 +0000, Sybren Stuvel wrote:

>> when the system starts on both selinux-sources (2.4) and
>> gentoo-dev-sources (2.6) with the gentoo=nodevfs (and no /dev in the
>> kernel compiled)
>
> Why don't you want devfs? I can only see advantages...
>

a) SElinux doesn't allow devfs
b) I need to be capable of managing a system without devfs

PiotrAF wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:16:08 +0000, Sybren Stuvel wrote:
>
>
>>>when the system starts on both selinux-sources (2.4) and
>>>gentoo-dev-sources (2.6) with the gentoo=nodevfs (and no /dev in the
>>>kernel compiled)
>>
>>Why don't you want devfs? I can only see advantages...
>>
>
>
> a) SElinux doesn't allow devfs

Did you follow
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/harden...86-install.xml ?

> b) I need to be capable of managing a system without devfs

Weird job interview?

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:42:37 +0000, Ben Measures wrote:

>> a) SElinux doesn't allow devfs
>
> Did you follow
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/harden...86-install.xml ?

of course

>
>> b) I need to be capable of managing a system without devfs
>

> Weird job interview?

hehehe :P just stubbornness

PiotrAF <piotraf@nospam.poczta.onet.pl> writes:

> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:42:37 +0000, Ben Measures wrote:
>
> >> a) SElinux doesn't allow devfs
> >
> > Did you follow
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/harden...86-install.xml ?
>
> of course
>
> >
> >> b) I need to be capable of managing a system without devfs
> >
>
> > Weird job interview?
>
> hehehe :P just stubbornness

No wonder you've been married twice ;0)

Yup... devfs sucks...

PiotrAF wrote:

> I'm searching the web to solve this but for now without any effect.
> this is kernel-independent problem I believe. Problems for sure with alsa
> and ptty(?)- not sure what is responsible for xterm or any other term in
> X - none of them opens.
> when the system starts on both selinux-sources (2.4) and
> gentoo-dev-sources (2.6) with the gentoo=nodevfs (and no /dev in the
> kernel compiled) I see error "unable to set user font and on the machine
> on which I have X (2.6) I cannot enable sound nor open xterm etc. I did
> MAKEDEV update in /dev but it says it doesn't know "alsa" and trying to.
> How to fix these? god knows what other devices are missing. I found a text
> about ./snddevices but I don't have it (it is supposed to be in
> alsa-driver which of course I don't have due to kernel 2.6)


Here's what you do...

You must compile in pty support in the kernel. It's off by default in the
2.6 versions...

You must run snddevices in the alsa-drivers package to create the alsa
soujnd devices....

Once you do this, it all should begin working. What you will run into, is
missing devices under /dev. Have no fear, as they (the devices) are
enumerated in the documentation in the linux source tree.Just figure out
which ones you need and then mknod as you go...

After you go through these steps, and still have problems, either post here
or reach me via email and I can help you further.

Cheers.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:01:53 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:

>
> Yup... devfs sucks...
>
> Here's what you do...

I started dreaming.....

>
> You must compile in pty support in the kernel. It's off by default in the
> 2.6 versions...

I have them
This is my current config (temporarily I have the /dev(fs))
http://piotr.toya.net.pl/~piotraf/li...rent/config.gz

>
> You must run snddevices in the alsa-drivers package to create the alsa
> soujnd devices....

I did run.. well it made few devices and it might be sufficent to play any
sound which I didn't check due to the fact that immediatelly after startx
i saw that my gkrellm-sound plugin stopped working (dissappeared) i.e. I
still didn't have the /dev/pcm etc I guess

>
> Once you do this, it all should begin working. What you will run into,
> is missing devices under /dev. Have no fear, as they (the devices) are
> enumerated in the documentation in the linux source tree.Just figure out
> which ones you need and then mknod as you go...
>
That's a good tip. really. By any chance you know what could be
responsible for:
unable to set user font which also probably causes the (any)term fail to
start + some weird keyboard problems related to this I guess - when booted
in such "missing-dev" environmnent I was going out and wanted to emerge
some stuff. so without the X I did so, and suddenly my PC speaker started
playing some weird "alarm-music" quite chaotic and I think invoked from
what was going on the creen during the emerge.

> After you go through these steps, and still have problems, either post
> here or reach me via email and I can help you further.

I will if you won;t reply here