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Old 02-21-2008, 09:40 AM
MikeyD
 
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Default Going back to 2.4 doable?

Bluddy kernel developers messed up CD burning. So I'm wondering about
sticking with 2.4. I thought gentoo-sources would be 2.4 and
gentoo-dev-sources 2.6 but an upgrade left me with 2.6. Is the 2.4 line of
gentoo-sources still going to be maintained? If not, is there a kernel tree
that is keeping to 2.4 but with new stuff? And is there anything I have to
be aware of if I'm staying with 2.4?
Thanks
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Going back to 2.4 doable?

And so, MikeyD just had to say on Saturday 09 April 2005 13:14 ...

> Bluddy kernel developers messed up CD burning. [...]


To your question: yes. However, it's all there in 2.6.10-r4.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Going back to 2.4 doable?

oldNbald wrote in <8tedncMmHd6UssXfRVn-hg@bresnan.com>:

> And so, MikeyD just had to say on Saturday 09 April 2005 13:14 ...
>
>> Bluddy kernel developers messed up CD burning. [...]

>
> To your question: yes. However, it's all there in 2.6.10-r4.


Well, I'm trying with 2.6.11-r5 which is supposed to be the latest stable,
and it's not working. Screenful of error after error, and doesn't want to
listen to ctrl-c.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Going back to 2.4 doable?

And so, MikeyD just had to say on Saturday 09 April 2005 14:06 ...

> Well, I'm trying with 2.6.11-r5 which is supposed to be the latest stable,
> and it's not working. Screenful of error after error, and doesn't want to
> listen to ctrl-c.


No MickeyD - 2.6.10-r6. I care not if it's stable only; I look for posts
such as yours to indicate if I want to try a new kernel
I'm _happy_ with 10-r6 and plan to sit here awhile.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Going back to 2.4 doable?

MikeyD wrote:
> Bluddy kernel developers messed up CD burning.


Misinformation. There's a long-running disagreement between the kernel
maintainers and the cdrecord maintainers:
http://programming.linux.com/article.../12/09/1341236

Considering that cdrdao and even NeroLinux works fine on the 2.6-series
kernel, it would seem that cdrecord is broken, not the kernel.

> So I'm wondering about sticking with 2.4.


Rather than do that, I decided to switch to cdrdao instead. Currently I
have linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 with cdrdao-1.1.9 (both being latest stable)
and burning works well.

> I thought gentoo-sources would be 2.4 and gentoo-dev-sources 2.6 but an
> upgrade left me with 2.6.


Since 2.6 is a stable-series kernel, it was moved to the proper place:
gentoo-sources.

gentoo-dev-sources will contain developmental-series kernels, like
linux-2.5.x or linux-2.7.x .

> Is the 2.4 line of gentoo-sources still going to be maintained?


I should think so. It'll probably become what 2.2 was to 2.4 -
vulnerabilities are fixed but no new features are added/backported.

However, given the choice between a 2.6-kernel and cdrtools, I'd go for
the benefits of the 2.6-series any day.

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Old 02-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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Ben Measures wrote in <IRX5e.8482$G8.8233@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:

> MikeyD wrote:
>> Bluddy kernel developers messed up CD burning.

>
> Misinformation. There's a long-running disagreement between the kernel
> maintainers and the cdrecord maintainers:
> http://programming.linux.com/article.../12/09/1341236


I know, I've followed it, and decided it's the kernel developers' fault. But
that's another discussion.
>
> Considering that cdrdao and even NeroLinux works fine on the 2.6-series
> kernel, it would seem that cdrecord is broken, not the kernel.
>
>> So I'm wondering about sticking with 2.4.

>
> Rather than do that, I decided to switch to cdrdao instead. Currently I
> have linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 with cdrdao-1.1.9 (both being latest stable)
> and burning works well.


You can't do multisession with it...can you?
>
>> I thought gentoo-sources would be 2.4 and gentoo-dev-sources 2.6 but an
>> upgrade left me with 2.6.

>
> Since 2.6 is a stable-series kernel, it was moved to the proper place:
> gentoo-sources.
>
> gentoo-dev-sources will contain developmental-series kernels, like
> linux-2.5.x or linux-2.7.x .


But there isn't going to be a 2.7 line, development is happening in 2.6. So
that's the only thing gentoo-dev-sources could be. If we're following
official kernel.org policy gentoo-sources and gentoo-dev-sources would both
be 2.6, which seems to be the way it is, but to my mind that's a bit of a
waste.
>
>> Is the 2.4 line of gentoo-sources still going to be maintained?

>
> I should think so. It'll probably become what 2.2 was to 2.4 -
> vulnerabilities are fixed but no new features are added/backported.


Hmm. I can live with that but I'd like one which is getting more features. I
know redhat backports lots of features to their 2.4 kernels, would a redhat
kernel play nice with a gentoo system?
>
> However, given the choice between a 2.6-kernel and cdrtools, I'd go for
> the benefits of the 2.6-series any day.
>

I haven't noticed any showstopper problems with 2.4 kernel, and don't notice
any real differences using 2.6 as I am at the moment. Wheras not being able
to burn CDs is a showstopper for me. I'll give cdrdao another go before I
make a final decision.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:41 AM
Ben Measures
 
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MikeyD wrote:
> Ben Measures wrote:
>>MikeyD wrote:
>>
>>>So I'm wondering about sticking with 2.4.

>>
>>Rather than do that, I decided to switch to cdrdao instead. Currently I
>>have linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 with cdrdao-1.1.9 (both being latest stable)
>>and burning works well.

>
> You can't do multisession with it...can you?


You can.

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