trying to wonder if it is possible to make X see that i've just plugged in
my usb mouse _after_ startx.

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preface:

i'm using laptop with touchpad configured as CorePointer and external usb
mouse as SendCoreEvents
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maybe the problem is that i'm using devfsd so /dev/input/mice does not exist
till i do not plug in the mouse - so XFree86.log just reports that it was
unable to see it at the beginning... and once it was started up i should
restart X in order to make it see the usb mouse...

another question is dealing about 3 button emulation: i cannot

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Hekaton Keires wrote:

excuse me did not finished...

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> another question is dealing about 3 button emulation: i cannot
>

copy from konsole just by clicking right button. i've tried to activate
3button emulation but with no changes. who can tell me the right thing to
do?

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Hekaton Keires enlightened us with:
> maybe the problem is that i'm using devfsd so /dev/input/mice does
> not exist till i do not plug in the mouse

Try loading the 'hid' module at boot time, instead of when plugging in
the mouse.

Sybren
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Sybren Stuvel wrote:

> Hekaton Keires enlightened us with:
>> maybe the problem is that i'm using devfsd so /dev/input/mice does
>> not exist till i do not plug in the mouse
>
> Try loading the 'hid' module at boot time, instead of when plugging in
> the mouse.
>
> Sybren

you're right! i should modprobe mousedev.o at a boot time... so it will
create /dev/input/mice character device which is a mux for all usb devices
yet plugged or not.

thx a lot

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Hekaton Keires enlightened us with:
>> Try loading the 'hid' module at boot time, instead of when plugging in
>> the mouse.
>
> you're right! i should modprobe mousedev.o at a boot time...

NO! Read the documentation again. That's for the USB boot protocol.
You want the 'hid' module, as I said.

Sybren
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Sybren Stuvel wrote:

> NO! Read the documentation again. That's for the USB boot protocol.
> You want the 'hid' module, as I said.
>
> Sybren

but if i load hid module it will create only a /dev/input directory... and
startx won't find any char device on wich open comunication on start...
while if i modprobe mousedev it will load input,hid and mousedev himself
and so will create all char devices i need.

what would i do with only hid module? and which char device should i specify
in /etc/X11R6/XF86Config?

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Hekaton Keires enlightened us with:
> but if i load hid module it will create only a /dev/input
> directory... and startx won't find any char device on wich open
> comunication on start...

Did you compile the kernel yourself? You must have
CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y in your kernel configuration, or it won't
function properly.

> what would i do with only hid module? and which char device should i
> specify in /etc/X11R6/XF86Config?

/dev/input/mice as usual. It's renamed to usbhid on 2.6 kernels, btw.


Sybren
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Sybren Stuvel wrote:

> Did you compile the kernel yourself? You must have
> CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y in your kernel configuration, or it won't
> function properly.

of course i did: i've compiled kernel with hid as module... and if i place
mousedev in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 it will load hid too... just
because of dependencies...

>> what would i do with only hid module? and which char device should i
>> specify in /etc/X11R6/XF86Config?
>
> /dev/input/mice as usual. It's renamed to usbhid on 2.6 kernels, btw.
>
>
> Sybren

maybe we're saying just the same thing with different words .

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Hekaton Keires wrote:
> trying to wonder if it is possible to make X see that i've just plugged in
> my usb mouse _after_ startx.

Another way:

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
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Hekaton Keires wrote:
> Hekaton Keires wrote:
>
> excuse me did not finished...
>
>
>>another question is dealing about 3 button emulation: i cannot
>>
>
>
> copy from konsole just by clicking right button. i've tried to activate
> 3button emulation but with no changes. who can tell me the right thing to
> do?
>
if your mouse has 2 buttons, set Emulate3Buttons "on" and :
press left button and drag - select
press both button - insert selected text

if your mouse has 3 or more buttons - set Emulate3Buttons "off" and
press left button and drag - select
press middle button - insert.

"right" button used for inserting previosly selected text only in text
mode. in graph mode it used applications by drop-down menus and so on.