Emerged kdebase and kdelibs 3.4.1-r1. Then, emerged various separate
KDE progs and uninstalled 3.3.2. But I still run old versions of
progs. eix shows, e.g., kmail-3.4.1, but kmail -v returns 1.8.1. Same
with knode, ksysguard, etc. Any advice appreciated as to why I can't
seem to use the new progs. And where the heck are they coming from?

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jb_gets_no_spam@home.now wrote:
> Emerged kdebase and kdelibs 3.4.1-r1. Then, emerged various separate
> KDE progs and uninstalled 3.3.2. But I still run old versions of
> progs. eix shows, e.g., kmail-3.4.1, but kmail -v returns 1.8.1. Same
> with knode, ksysguard, etc. Any advice appreciated as to why I can't
> seem to use the new progs. And where the heck are they coming from?
>

All programs that is included in the monolithic KDE don't follow the KDE
version numbering, so "kmail -v" gives me:

Qt: 3.3.4
KDE: 3.4.2
KMail: 1.8.2

So the kmail version is 1.8.2, which is part of the KDE 3.4.2.


//Aho

J.O. Aho wrote:

> jb_gets_no_spam@home.now wrote:
>> Emerged kdebase and kdelibs 3.4.1-r1. Then, emerged various separate
>> KDE progs and uninstalled 3.3.2. But I still run old versions of
>> progs. eix shows, e.g., kmail-3.4.1, but kmail -v returns 1.8.1.
>> Same
>> with knode, ksysguard, etc. Any advice appreciated as to why I can't
>> seem to use the new progs. And where the heck are they coming from?
>>
>
> All programs that is included in the monolithic KDE don't follow the
> KDE version numbering, so "kmail -v" gives me:
>
> Qt: 3.3.4
> KDE: 3.4.2
> KMail: 1.8.2
>
> So the kmail version is 1.8.2, which is part of the KDE 3.4.2.

J.O. Aho wrote:

> jb_gets_no_spam@home.now wrote:
>> Emerged kdebase and kdelibs 3.4.1-r1. Then, emerged various separate
>> KDE progs and uninstalled 3.3.2. But I still run old versions of
>> progs. eix shows, e.g., kmail-3.4.1, but kmail -v returns 1.8.1.
>> Same
>> with knode, ksysguard, etc. Any advice appreciated as to why I can't
>> seem to use the new progs. And where the heck are they coming from?
>>
>
> All programs that is included in the monolithic KDE don't follow the
> KDE version numbering, so "kmail -v" gives me:
>
> Qt: 3.3.4
> KDE: 3.4.2
> KMail: 1.8.2
>
> So the kmail version is 1.8.2, which is part of the KDE 3.4.2.

Wow, do I not understand this. Why the following?

[Tue Oct 11] edj:~$ eix ksysguard
* kde-base/ksysguard
Available versions: ~3.4.1 3.4.1-r1 ~3.4.2 [M]3.5_beta1
Installed: none <--------------
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Description: KDE System Guard

Tue Oct 11] edj:~$ ksysguard -v
Qt: 3.3.4
KDE: 3.4.1
KDE System Guard: 1.2.0 <----------------

And, as kmail 1.8.1 is the version, why this:

[Tue Oct 11] edj:~$ eix kmail
* kde-base/kmail
Available versions: 3.4.1 3.4.1-r1 ~3.4.2 ~3.4.2-r1 [M]3.5_beta1
Installed: 3.4.1-r1 <-------------------
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Description: KDE mail client

There is no kmail 1.8.x at the Gentoo database.

And, finally, monolithic? I installed kdebase, not kdebase-meta. Do I
have these backwards?

Thanks a lot.

On Tuesday 11 October 2005 17:36, jb_gets_no_spam@home.now stood up and
spoke the following words to the masses in /alt.os.linux.gentoo...:/

> J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>> jb_gets_no_spam@home.now wrote:
>>> Emerged kdebase and kdelibs 3.4.1-r1. Then, emerged various
>>> separate
>>> KDE progs and uninstalled 3.3.2. But I still run old versions of
>>> progs. eix shows, e.g., kmail-3.4.1, but kmail -v returns 1.8.1.
>>> Same
>>> with knode, ksysguard, etc. Any advice appreciated as to why I
>>> can't
>>> seem to use the new progs. And where the heck are they coming from?
>>>
>>
>> All programs that is included in the monolithic KDE don't follow the
>> KDE version numbering, so "kmail -v" gives me:
>>
>> Qt: 3.3.4
>> KDE: 3.4.2
>> KMail: 1.8.2
>>
>> So the kmail version is 1.8.2, which is part of the KDE 3.4.2.
>
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>> jb_gets_no_spam@home.now wrote:
>>> Emerged kdebase and kdelibs 3.4.1-r1. Then, emerged various
>>> separate
>>> KDE progs and uninstalled 3.3.2. But I still run old versions of
>>> progs. eix shows, e.g., kmail-3.4.1, but kmail -v returns 1.8.1.
>>> Same
>>> with knode, ksysguard, etc. Any advice appreciated as to why I
>>> can't
>>> seem to use the new progs. And where the heck are they coming from?
>>>
>>
>> All programs that is included in the monolithic KDE don't follow the
>> KDE version numbering, so "kmail -v" gives me:
>>
>> Qt: 3.3.4
>> KDE: 3.4.2
>> KMail: 1.8.2
>>
>> So the kmail version is 1.8.2, which is part of the KDE 3.4.2.
>
> Wow, do I not understand this. Why the following?
>
> [Tue Oct 11] edj:~$ eix ksysguard
> * kde-base/ksysguard
> Available versions: ~3.4.1 3.4.1-r1 ~3.4.2 [M]3.5_beta1
> Installed: none <--------------
> Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
> Description: KDE System Guard
>
> Tue Oct 11] edj:~$ ksysguard -v
> Qt: 3.3.4
> KDE: 3.4.1
> KDE System Guard: 1.2.0 <----------------
>
> And, as kmail 1.8.1 is the version, why this:
>
> [Tue Oct 11] edj:~$ eix kmail
> * kde-base/kmail
> Available versions: 3.4.1 3.4.1-r1 ~3.4.2 ~3.4.2-r1 [M]3.5_beta1
> Installed: 3.4.1-r1 <-------------------
> Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
> Description: KDE mail client
>
> There is no kmail 1.8.x at the Gentoo database.
>
> And, finally, monolithic? I installed kdebase, not kdebase-meta. Do
> I have these backwards?
>
> Thanks a lot.

/kdebase-meta/ is the "split ebuilds version". /kdebase/ is the
monolithic ebuild.

--
With kind regards,

*Aragorn*
(Registered Gnu/Linux user # 223157)

Never mind, - solved. Off to reinstall. Thanks for the tip.

jb_gets_no_spam@home.now wrote:
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>
>>jb_gets_no_spam@home.now wrote:
>>
>>>Emerged kdebase and kdelibs 3.4.1-r1. Then, emerged various separate
>>>KDE progs and uninstalled 3.3.2. But I still run old versions of
>>>progs. eix shows, e.g., kmail-3.4.1, but kmail -v returns 1.8.1.
>>>Same
>>>with knode, ksysguard, etc. Any advice appreciated as to why I can't
>>>seem to use the new progs. And where the heck are they coming from?
>>>
>>
>>All programs that is included in the monolithic KDE don't follow the
>>KDE version numbering, so "kmail -v" gives me:
>>
>>Qt: 3.3.4
>>KDE: 3.4.2
>>KMail: 1.8.2
>>
>>So the kmail version is 1.8.2, which is part of the KDE 3.4.2.

> And, as kmail 1.8.1 is the version, why this:
>
> [Tue Oct 11] edj:~$ eix kmail
> * kde-base/kmail
> Available versions: 3.4.1 3.4.1-r1 ~3.4.2 ~3.4.2-r1 [M]3.5_beta1
> Installed: 3.4.1-r1 <-------------------
> Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
> Description: KDE mail client
>
> There is no kmail 1.8.x at the Gentoo database.
>
> And, finally, monolithic? I installed kdebase, not kdebase-meta. Do I
> have these backwards?
>
> Thanks a lot.

KDE has it own version number, each part of KDE has it's own version, the
versions of the parts aren't the same as for the whole KDE, this for programs
may not be always upgraded when a new version of KDE is released and sometimes
a new program is added and it has it's own version which could be 0.0.1 or
even 10.0.100 if the program has been developed for a long time before added
to KDE.

Gentoo choose to use the KDE version for the meta packages, as it's easier to
know what package belongs together with another one.

This is the same way with version of Gentoo don't follow the kernel version,
but has it's own version numbering.



//Aho