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Hullo,

Up until recently, my gentoo installation has been running
beautifully. Somewhere, somehow, though, I must've made a slip-up
with etc-update or something.

My problem is that I have a netgear FA511 ethernet adaptor that had
been working by default, and then suddenly, it won't load it or the
related modules at all. I do have pcmcia working to a degree- I can
plug an old linksys I have and it works fine straight off the boot.

Digging around, I found that the modules that make my netgear run are
all in /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/pcmcia and these are:

ds.o
i82365.0
pcmcia_core.o
pcnet_cs.o
tcic.o
xircom_tulip_cb.o
yenta_socket.o

I recognise most of these as modules that would be displayed by lsmod
back when I had the damn thing working so I was curious as to why they
aren't loading, so typed 'ls -asl' in that directory and found that
all those files are links to

/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/[module name]

and this directory doesn't even exist (as, naturally do the files
they're supposed to be pointing to)!

Can someone tell me why these modules might have disapppeared? How to
get them back? I'm not certain which options under the kernel's
menuconfig I might find these modules under. Any help at all would be
appreciated!

Thanks,
Aric

> Can someone tell me why these modules might have disapppeared? How to
> get them back? I'm not certain which options under the kernel's
> menuconfig I might find these modules under. Any help at all would be
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Aric
>

Hi Aric,

Have you updated your kernel lately... I bet you have ;-)?! The modules
that you are referring to are in the pcmcia-cs package which if you recall
you had to emerge separately from the kernel. When you update the kernel
it removes all the old modules and installs the new. Unfortunately,
modules such as ALSA and pcmcia-cs which aren't actually part of the
kernel are whipped and not replaced. To fix just re-emerge pcmcia-cs.

Cheers,
Jason

Jason Nielsen <jdn@cs.sfu.ca> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.53.0310151720090.2741@lenny>...
> > Can someone tell me why these modules might have disapppeared? How to
> > get them back? I'm not certain which options under the kernel's
> > menuconfig I might find these modules under. Any help at all would be
> > appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aric
> >
>
> Hi Aric,
>
> Have you updated your kernel lately... I bet you have ;-)?! The modules
> that you are referring to are in the pcmcia-cs package which if you recall
> you had to emerge separately from the kernel. When you update the kernel
> it removes all the old modules and installs the new. Unfortunately,
> modules such as ALSA and pcmcia-cs which aren't actually part of the
> kernel are whipped and not replaced. To fix just re-emerge pcmcia-cs.
>
> Cheers,
> Jason

Jason,

Indeed I have. So, I checked my kernel configuration, compiled, made
sure all the modules were installed (and that pcmcia and cardbus were
enabled per pcmcia-cs howto), THEN emerged pcmcia-cs, rebooted, and
then proceeded to get a bunch of unresolved symbol errors for my
relevant modules..

I've tried this with the r5 and r7 kernels, and always with the same
result (though my old, albeit slow linksys still works every time). I
hate this netgear :-( I was surprised to find out about a month ago
that it worked from boot with gentoo (I've been using gentoo for about
three months now) because except for mandrake and redhat, I could
never get the thing to work. I'd prefer to be using the netgear
because it IS faster and doesn't have a dongle, but I cannot figure
out why its so linux unfriendly. Please help me with the mysteries
:-)

-Aric

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Aric wrote:

> Jason Nielsen <jdn@cs.sfu.ca> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.53.0310151720090.2741@lenny>...
> > > Can someone tell me why these modules might have disapppeared? How to
> > > get them back? I'm not certain which options under the kernel's
> > > menuconfig I might find these modules under. Any help at all would be
> > > appreciated!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Aric
> > >
> >
> > Hi Aric,
> >
> > Have you updated your kernel lately... I bet you have ;-)?! The modules
> > that you are referring to are in the pcmcia-cs package which if you recall
> > you had to emerge separately from the kernel. When you update the kernel
> > it removes all the old modules and installs the new. Unfortunately,
> > modules such as ALSA and pcmcia-cs which aren't actually part of the
> > kernel are whipped and not replaced. To fix just re-emerge pcmcia-cs.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jason
>
> Jason,
>
> Indeed I have. So, I checked my kernel configuration, compiled, made
> sure all the modules were installed (and that pcmcia and cardbus were
> enabled per pcmcia-cs howto), THEN emerged pcmcia-cs, rebooted, and
> then proceeded to get a bunch of unresolved symbol errors for my
> relevant modules..
>
> I've tried this with the r5 and r7 kernels, and always with the same
> result (though my old, albeit slow linksys still works every time). I
> hate this netgear :-( I was surprised to find out about a month ago
> that it worked from boot with gentoo (I've been using gentoo for about
> three months now) because except for mandrake and redhat, I could
> never get the thing to work. I'd prefer to be using the netgear
> because it IS faster and doesn't have a dongle, but I cannot figure
> out why its so linux unfriendly. Please help me with the mysteries
> :-)
>
> -Aric

Hi Aric,

I'm not sure what PCMCIA howto you are using but you can't have PCMCIA
enable in the kernel and use pcmcia-cs. So I think the problem is coming
from conflicting modules. The old NIC probably works as kernel pcmcia
supports it. Try the following:

1) Recompile the kernel WITHOUT pcmcia support
2) re-emerge pcmcia-cs
3) rc-update add pcmcia default
4) Give it a try ;-)!

if that doesn't work try adding the following to /etc/modules.autoload:

ds
i82365

Well hope this helps.

Cheers,
Jason

Aric wrote:
> Hullo,
>
> Up until recently, my gentoo installation has been running
> beautifully. Somewhere, somehow, though, I must've made a slip-up
> with etc-update or something.
>
> My problem is that I have a netgear FA511 ethernet adaptor that had
> been working by default, and then suddenly, it won't load it or the
> related modules at all. I do have pcmcia working to a degree- I can
> plug an old linksys I have and it works fine straight off the boot.
>
> Digging around, I found that the modules that make my netgear run are
> all in /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/pcmcia and these are:
>
> ds.o
> i82365.0
> pcmcia_core.o
> pcnet_cs.o
> tcic.o
> xircom_tulip_cb.o
> yenta_socket.o
>
> I recognise most of these as modules that would be displayed by lsmod
> back when I had the damn thing working so I was curious as to why they
> aren't loading, so typed 'ls -asl' in that directory and found that
> all those files are links to
>
> /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/[module name]
>
> and this directory doesn't even exist (as, naturally do the files
> they're supposed to be pointing to)!
>
> Can someone tell me why these modules might have disapppeared? How to
> get them back? I'm not certain which options under the kernel's
> menuconfig I might find these modules under. Any help at all would be
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Aric
Aric,

Failing everything else...

For the life of me, I could not get Gentoo to utilize my common Linksys
ethernet PCMCIA adapter. I fixed it by giving the emerged package the
old heave-ho, and going straight by that pcmcia how-to. I compiled the
source myself, and everything worked fine. You may try that, if nobody
else comes up with a solution.

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"Jordan T. Cox" <nowhere@phantomdata.com> wrote in message news:<bmmsa3$8le$1@news.astound.net>...

> Aric,
>
> Failing everything else...
>
> For the life of me, I could not get Gentoo to utilize my common Linksys
> ethernet PCMCIA adapter. I fixed it by giving the emerged package the
> old heave-ho, and going straight by that pcmcia how-to. I compiled the
> source myself, and everything worked fine. You may try that, if nobody
> else comes up with a solution.

Well, I had hoped the good advice given me would work, and I could
then post the solution for the posterity of all the people on the
internet who can't get their netgear fa511's working, but I have
failed. Horribly. Now my linksys won't even work. And I've lost
sound. I love linux, but I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that I'm
not a competent enough computer user to use it. And with the recent
news of a microsoft affiliated company investing $50 mil. into SCO, I
think I might just quit using computers altogether. I have tried so
many kernel configurations, and have tried pcmcia-cs over and over
again.

I have disabled everything that even mentions pcmcia in the kernel and
pcmcia-cs is still insisting that pcmcia is enabled in the kernel, and
refuses to install the drivers. I've tried trusting the kernel and
unisntalling pcmica-cs, and manually loading the relevent modules and
it never works. Can anyone tell my why pcmcia-cs thinks I have pcmcia
enabled? I'm seriously bummed here. My favorite OS hates me. Maybe
I'll try VMS.

> Well, I had hoped the good advice given me would work, and I could
> then post the solution for the posterity of all the people on the
> internet who can't get their netgear fa511's working, but I have
> failed. Horribly. Now my linksys won't even work. And I've lost
> sound. I love linux, but I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that I'm
> not a competent enough computer user to use it. And with the recent
> news of a microsoft affiliated company investing $50 mil. into SCO, I
> think I might just quit using computers altogether. I have tried so
> many kernel configurations, and have tried pcmcia-cs over and over
> again.
>
> I have disabled everything that even mentions pcmcia in the kernel and
> pcmcia-cs is still insisting that pcmcia is enabled in the kernel, and
> refuses to install the drivers. I've tried trusting the kernel and
> unisntalling pcmica-cs, and manually loading the relevent modules and
> it never works. Can anyone tell my why pcmcia-cs thinks I have pcmcia
> enabled? I'm seriously bummed here. My favorite OS hates me. Maybe
> I'll try VMS.

Hi Aric,

Well I imagine that sound is gone because you will need to re-emerge ALSA
after you rebuild you kernel. OK here is a step by step:

1) Recompile your kernel (no pcmcia support)

make mrproper (back up your old .config first... this cleans house before
a recompile)
make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install

2) emerge pcmcia-cs

3) add pcmcia to default runlevel:

rc-update add pcmcia default

4) The Netgear FA511 is supported by pcmcia with driver: tulip_cb

do the following:

cardctl ident (as root, with card in slot)

check out the manfid... in /etc/pcmcia/config I see this entry:

card "NetGear FA511 Fast Ethernet"
pci 0x1317, 0x1985
bind "tulip_cb"

if your manfid doesn't match replace with:

manfid ####, #####

Now report your system. If you recompile your kernel and don't reboot you
are not using the new kernel. Also, to get back your sound re-emerge
ALSA.

Cheers,
Jason