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#1 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

Hi,

In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP with AVG
antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect me from Spam
and Virii nasties.

What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've looked at
Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading and won't let
you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get 300-400 messages a day at
about 98% Spam).

TIA,
Al

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#2 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:01:36 +0000, news wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP with AVG
> antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect me from Spam
> and Virii nasties.
>
> What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've looked at
> Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading and won't let
> you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get 300-400 messages a day at
> about 98% Spam).
>
> TIA,
> Al

Al, take a look at Thunderbird at mozilla.org or spamassassin with Kmail
or something.

--
-Joseph-
Newbies, don't let some of our people's nastiness put you off...
http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/l-faq.pdf
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml

#3 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

I don't know about spam filtering, but if you're an Outlook user then
you should check out Evolution. It doesn't get any closer to Outlook
without actually installing Office.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:01:36 +0000, news <support@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP with AVG
>antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect me from Spam
>and Virii nasties.
>
>What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've looked at
>Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading and won't let
>you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get 300-400 messages a day at
>about 98% Spam).
>
>TIA,
>Al

#4 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

news wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP with AVG
> antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect me from Spam
> and Virii nasties.
>
> What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've looked at
> Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading and won't let
> you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get 300-400 messages a day at
> about 98% Spam).
>
> TIA,
> Al
>
> --

Thunderbird, disabling the built in spam controls, and using POPFile
instead, that will sort your spam problems for good.

#5 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:01:36 +0000
news <support@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP
> with AVG antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect
> me from Spam and Virii nasties.
>
> What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've
> looked at Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading
> and won't let you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get
> 300-400 messages a day at about 98% Spam).

Sylpheed-claws + bogofilter.

In two months usage:
Total Spam: 1201
Total Misses: ~20
False Positives: 0

Excellent HOW-TO:
http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/li...howcontent=off

- Brian

--
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl
mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do
not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.

#6 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:01:36 +0000, news wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP with
> AVG antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect me
> from Spam and Virii nasties.
>
> What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've looked
> at Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading and won't
> let you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get 300-400 messages a
> day at about 98% Spam).
>
> TIA,
> Al

You can have all your pop3 mail piped through spamassassin, its has worked
great for me.
http://www.atlantawebhost.com/articl...amassassin.php

#7 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 14:27:14 -0500, Joseph wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:01:36 +0000, news wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP with
>> AVG antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect me
>> from Spam and Virii nasties.
>>
>> What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've looked
>> at Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading and won't
>> let you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get 300-400 messages a
>> day at about 98% Spam).
>>
>> TIA,
>> Al

Having uses both Sylpheed and Evolution, I have to say that if you're as
dependent upon gpg as I am all of your Windows Contacts will hate you
because nether one of them does an inline digital signature correctly;
instead they include a sig.dat file which most anti-virus apps pick up as
a virus.

Of course if you need to control spam, and don't like Mozilla then
definately look into evolution and one of the new bayesian filters such as
bogofilter. This new method works so much better then the old way I have
to wonder why the hell someone didn't think of it before.

#8 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

news wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP with
> AVG antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect me from
> Spam and Virii nasties.
>
> What do people recommend to get a similar setup on gentoo? I've looked at
> Mozilla but it doesn't show what messages it is downloading and won't let
> you view the inbox whilst it's downloading (I get 300-400 messages a day
> at about 98% Spam).
>
> TIA,
> Al
>
> --
> news at prbox dot con
Kmail with spamassassin is very nice.
Spamassassin has all the features you could want in a spam filter, black
lists, white lists, bayesian keywords, format checks.
Kmail has very configurable filters, both on the whole mail, and also on
just the headers, so you can delete mail on the server without downloading
(very handy, with just filtering on the subject for all the variations of
that well know performance enhancer beginning with v and ending with a,
you'll kill about half your spam), you can automatically download others,
and have kmail prompt you for what to do about others based on the headers.
--
jim

#9 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:56:07 +0000, jim wrote:
> news wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP
>> with AVG antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect
>> me from Spam and Virii nasties.
<...>
>>
>> --
>> news at prbox dot con
> Kmail with spamassassin is very nice. Spamassassin has all the features
> you could want in a spam filter, black lists, white lists, bayesian
> keywords, format checks. Kmail has very configurable filters, both on
> the whole mail, and also on just the headers, so you can delete mail on
> the server without downloading (very handy, with just filtering on the
> subject for all the variations of that well know performance enhancer
> beginning with v and ending with a, you'll kill about half your spam),
> you can automatically download others, and have kmail prompt you for
> what to do about others based on the headers.

How about that. I've been using KMail for a couple months and hadn't read
far enough into the manual to realize it has download filters. (I'd tried
the other mail clients too and KMail was my choice anyway.)

Have a question about using SpamAssasin with Prolog mail. My main
complaint is that Prolog's SA sometimes incorrectly identifies "good"
email as spam ... and writes its garbage to the Subject line. Wouldn't I
have to pipe the mail through a filter to restore the unmodified Subject
line before I put it through my version of SA?

#10 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 06:08 AM

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:52:52 -0500, Ann wrote:

Duh!! Mistakenly thought I was posting to a different ng and my post
doesn't make much sense without adding some more info. 'Prolog' is an ISP
and they run email through (an old version of) SA and add this spam tag to
the subject line ***SPAMTAGPTD: (It used to be even longer.) There is
no way to opt out of having the email it identifies as spam tagged.

I know this probably isn't an appropriate question for this ng but wanted
to apologize and explain myself.

> On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:56:07 +0000, jim wrote:
>> news wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In the past I've been using Windows XP and I used to use outlook XP
>>> with AVG antivirius and Cloudmakr Spamnet which worked well to protect
>>> me from Spam and Virii nasties.
> <...>
>>>
>>> --
>>> news at prbox dot con
>> Kmail with spamassassin is very nice. Spamassassin has all the features
>> you could want in a spam filter, black lists, white lists, bayesian
>> keywords, format checks. Kmail has very configurable filters, both on
>> the whole mail, and also on just the headers, so you can delete mail on
>> the server without downloading (very handy, with just filtering on the
>> subject for all the variations of that well know performance enhancer
>> beginning with v and ending with a, you'll kill about half your spam),
>> you can automatically download others, and have kmail prompt you for
>> what to do about others based on the headers.
>
> How about that. I've been using KMail for a couple months and hadn't read
> far enough into the manual to realize it has download filters. (I'd tried
> the other mail clients too and KMail was my choice anyway.)
>
> Have a question about using SpamAssasin with Prolog mail. My main
> complaint is that Prolog's SA sometimes incorrectly identifies "good"
> email as spam ... and writes its garbage to the Subject line. Wouldn't I
> have to pipe the mail through a filter to restore the unmodified Subject
> line before I put it through my version of SA?

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