will I need these flags (arts esd) set for a compilation of majority of
programs and will the alsa be enough?
--
S

S wrote:
> will I need these flags (arts esd) set for a compilation of majority of
> programs and will the alsa be enough?

That's fine. In addition, I also add the '-oss' flag to my USE variable.

--
Ben M.

Ben Measures wrote:

> That's fine. In addition, I also add the '-oss' flag to my USE variable.

I am sorry I caused some missunderstanding, I meant arts asd to be set *off*
and oss either.
Thus I am reinstating my question: will these USE setttings:
"-arts -esd -oss alsa" be OK?

So far I have found out when kdelibs is compiled without arts then it lacks
these controversial "whistles" and other clicking sound effects
I am afraid I will find my Kde too dull now, coudn't it work with just alsa
alone?

--
S

S <s7s@imagine.op.pl> wrote:
>
> So far I have found out when kdelibs is compiled without arts then it
> lacks these controversial "whistles" and other clicking sound effects
> I am afraid I will find my Kde too dull now, coudn't it work with
> just alsa alone?

I believe the KDE team is working on getting rid of arts, but for now,
it's hard to get around it (without ditching KDE, that is).

Regards,
--
*Art

S wrote:
> Ben Measures wrote:
>
>
>>That's fine. In addition, I also add the '-oss' flag to my USE variable.
>
>
> I am sorry I caused some missunderstanding, I meant arts asd to be set *off*
> and oss either.
> Thus I am reinstating my question: will these USE setttings:
> "-arts -esd -oss alsa" be OK?
>
> So far I have found out when kdelibs is compiled without arts then it lacks
> these controversial "whistles" and other clicking sound effects
> I am afraid I will find my Kde too dull now, coudn't it work with just alsa
> alone?
>
At this point KDE uses arts for it's audio stuff in the same way as gnome2
uses esd.

If you want "full" sound support I suggest you use "arts esd oss alsa" and
build your alsa driver with oss support.


//Aho

J.O. Aho wrote:

> If you want "full" sound support I suggest you use "arts esd oss alsa"

...and if I did not want those sound effects associated with clicking,
windows maximization etc.
but just same *usable* sound for music, VoIP
then would alsa alone be sufficient?

--
S

J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
>
> At this point KDE uses arts for it's audio stuff in the same way as
> gnome2 uses esd.
>
> If you want "full" sound support I suggest you use "arts esd oss
> alsa" and build your alsa driver with oss support.

I have the opposite problem -- I have a couple of servers without sound
cards, and would like to NOT use any sound server at all, but still use
X (remotely). Unfortunately, both Gnome and KDE are very unhappy if you
try to start up without sound set up, and you get error windows right
and left, both at login and during normal use. Using "-arts -esd" USE
flags doesn't help -- the desktop environments still insist that you
must have sound. Is there some kind of special server build out there?
I can't believe I'm the only person who log in to remote servers over
XDMCP?

Regards,
--
*Art

S wrote:
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>
>>If you want "full" sound support I suggest you use "arts esd oss alsa"
>
>
> ..and if I did not want those sound effects associated with clicking,
> windows maximization etc.
> but just same *usable* sound for music, VoIP
> then would alsa alone be sufficient?

Depends on what music playing application you are using, XMMS supports alsa
and would be able to play music, when it comes to VoIP it depends on the
software if it supports alsa or not.


//Aho

Arthur Hagen wrote:
> J.O. Aho <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>>At this point KDE uses arts for it's audio stuff in the same way as
>>gnome2 uses esd.
>>
>>If you want "full" sound support I suggest you use "arts esd oss
>>alsa" and build your alsa driver with oss support.
>
>
> I have the opposite problem -- I have a couple of servers without sound
> cards, and would like to NOT use any sound server at all, but still use
> X (remotely). Unfortunately, both Gnome and KDE are very unhappy if you
> try to start up without sound set up, and you get error windows right
> and left, both at login and during normal use. Using "-arts -esd" USE
> flags doesn't help -- the desktop environments still insist that you
> must have sound. Is there some kind of special server build out there?
> I can't believe I'm the only person who log in to remote servers over
> XDMCP?

Yeah, that is a problem, but you can still get around it a bit, I haven't
tried it myself, but take a look at NetAudio, which I think had the
possibility to use a remote computer as the "sound card".


//Aho