Hi.
I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but there
is one scene with a naked breast being caressed. The film is ok for the
kids otherwise.
If I rip it to divx, is there any software (cinelerra is masked and
broken) I can use to edit that breast out so they can watch it? Of course
I could sit there with the kids and wait for the scene to come up and
cover their eyes, but I don't trust my own timing. Many thanks.

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__/ [Jafar As-Sadiq Calley] on Monday 19 September 2005 13:36 \__

> Hi.
> I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but there
> is one scene with a naked breast being caressed. The film is ok for the
> kids otherwise.
> If I rip it to divx, is there any software (cinelerra is masked and
> broken) I can use to edit that breast out so they can watch it? Of course
> I could sit there with the kids and wait for the scene to come up and
> cover their eyes, but I don't trust my own timing. Many thanks.

Hi Jafar,

I am not sure to what extent this is a *nix/Gentoo question, but here's my
general opinion...

If you seek software that will detect nudity and do so reliably, i.e.
without false positives, then expect it to run for days just filtering the
frames. Understanding of a scene whose nature is quite variant would be a
hard task.

Moreover, there is a lot of programming and probably a lot of dependencies
involved. The best you can ever do is watch the film beforehand and remove
frames which you find to be unsuitable for your children. There is no
chance in hell that analysis like that can be done in real time.

For such the task of editing any Open Source video editing suite would do.
You can just replace unwanted frames with some uniform black frame, for
instance. It would be very time consuming (possible lots of pasting
involved) and then require re-burning of the DVD.

My advice to you would be that you ought to fast-forward the film
beforehand, learning when nudity appears (write it down if necessary).
Thereafter, you can invite the children for some chocolate at the kitchen
at just the right time. *smile*

So there. Not a very *nix-like or technical suggestion, but I hope it's
valuable at some level or another.

Roy

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Jafar As-Sadiq Calley wrote:
> Hi.
> I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but there
> is one scene with a naked breast being caressed. The film is ok for the
> kids otherwise.
> If I rip it to divx, is there any software (cinelerra is masked and
> broken) I can use to edit that breast out so they can watch it? Of course
> I could sit there with the kids and wait for the scene to come up and
> cover their eyes, but I don't trust my own timing. Many thanks.


Avidemux2, it's not masked nor broken.


//Aho

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:05:30 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

> Avidemux2, it's not masked nor broken.

That looks like it will do the job. Thanks!

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Jafar Calley
Producer - http://moonlife-records.com
--------------------------------------
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http://fatcat.homelinux.org

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> writes:

>__/ [Jafar As-Sadiq Calley] on Monday 19 September 2005 13:36 \__

>> Hi.
>> I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but there
>> is one scene with a naked breast being caressed. The film is ok for the
>> kids otherwise.
>> If I rip it to divx, is there any software (cinelerra is masked and
>> broken) I can use to edit that breast out so they can watch it? Of course
>> I could sit there with the kids and wait for the scene to come up and
>> cover their eyes, but I don't trust my own timing. Many thanks.

>Hi Jafar,

>I am not sure to what extent this is a *nix/Gentoo question, but here's my
>general opinion...

>If you seek software that will detect nudity and do so reliably, i.e.
>without false positives, then expect it to run for days just filtering the
>frames. Understanding of a scene whose nature is quite variant would be a
>hard task.

I do not think that he wants to do it automatically. I think he would be
happy if he could
a) download the dvd to his hard disk.
b) replace the scenes with the breast with black screens.
c) write the dvd back to a dvd so it could be watched on his DVD player
attached to his TV.

Now, exactly why he would want to do so is a bit obscure to me, since his
kids all sucked at his wife's breast for the first few years of their
lives, but I guess he wants to do it.


>Moreover, there is a lot of programming and probably a lot of dependencies
>involved. The best you can ever do is watch the film beforehand and remove
>frames which you find to be unsuitable for your children. There is no
>chance in hell that analysis like that can be done in real time.

>For such the task of editing any Open Source video editing suite would do.
>You can just replace unwanted frames with some uniform black frame, for
>instance. It would be very time consuming (possible lots of pasting
>involved) and then require re-burning of the DVD.

>My advice to you would be that you ought to fast-forward the film
>beforehand, learning when nudity appears (write it down if necessary).
>Thereafter, you can invite the children for some chocolate at the kitchen
>at just the right time. *smile*

I think he is worried that they will watch it without him present, or that
he will forget to invite them at just the right time.


>So there. Not a very *nix-like or technical suggestion, but I hope it's
>valuable at some level or another.

>Roy

>--
>Roy S. Schestowitz | Useless fact: Digits 772-777 of Pi are 999999
>http://Schestowitz.com | SuSE Linux | PGP-Key: 74572E8E
> 2:55pm up 25 days 3:09, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.36, 0.62

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:05:30 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

> Jafar As-Sadiq Calley wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but there
>> is one scene with a naked breast being caressed. The film is ok for the
>> kids otherwise.
>> If I rip it to divx, is there any software (cinelerra is masked and
>> broken) I can use to edit that breast out so they can watch it? Of course
>> I could sit there with the kids and wait for the scene to come up and
>> cover their eyes, but I don't trust my own timing. Many thanks.
>
>
> Avidemux2, it's not masked nor broken.
>
>
> //Aho

Ironic, nearly everyone else keeps that bit and throws out the rest of the
film!

Jafar As-Sadiq Calley wrote:
>
> I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but there
> is one scene with a naked breast being caressed.
> [snip] is there any software [...]
> I can use to edit that breast out so they can watch it?

As an alternative to the hard-cutting that has already been suggested,
mplayer supports "Edit Decision Lists":
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/edl.html

The advantage of this is you can easily make family versions of movies
(blank swearing, nudity, violence, etc) without losing the full version
for adult audiences such as yourself ;-)

Hth,
--
Ben M.

Jafar As-Sadiq Calley <nooo@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hi.
> I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but
> there is one scene with a naked breast being caressed. The film is ok
> for the kids otherwise.

I think something is seriously wrong when it's ok to let kids see people
being maimed, blown to pieces, tortured, bleeding and dying all over the
place, while a *breast* makes it unsuitable.

This strikes me as especially ironic for Starship Troopers, where one of
the main points of the story is that there's no universal morals, and
conditioning and propaganda forms your beliefs in what's right and
wrong. It must be so.

Regards,
--
*Art

Arthur Hagen wrote:

> I think something is seriously wrong when it's ok to let kids see people
> being maimed, blown to pieces, tortured, bleeding and dying all over the
> place, while a *breast* makes it unsuitable.
>
> This strikes me as especially ironic for Starship Troopers, where one of
> the main points of the story is that there's no universal morals, and
> conditioning and propaganda forms your beliefs in what's right and
> wrong. It must be so.

If you suck on a tit the movie gets an R rating. If you hack the tit off
with an axe it will be PG.
- Jack Nicholson

Arthur Hagen wrote:
> Jafar As-Sadiq Calley <nooo@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi.
>>I have Starship Troopers 2 on DVD and my kids want to watch it, but
>>there is one scene with a naked breast being caressed. The film is ok
>>for the kids otherwise.
>
>
> I think something is seriously wrong when it's ok to let kids see people
> being maimed, blown to pieces, tortured, bleeding and dying all over the
> place, while a *breast* makes it unsuitable.
>
> Regards,

Without wanting to descend into a flame war, I think the OP's name
should give you a hint as to why he wants to censor that scene.

That said, I actually find the whole movie distateful - and it's rated
at Restricted 18+ in the UK, Germany, Singapore & South Korea.

There is no way on earth I would let my kids see it at all.