Sean Cleary wrote:

> Ok, so identical email addresses does not mean identical people.
> How can one tell?

Check which news server that has been used for the posting, you see that in
the posts header

Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews.google.com!m77g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com!not-for-mail

This shows that your post was posted at m77g2000hsc.googlegroups.com


> Sorry for the misidentification, I thought that I had the dude.
> And can u get him for using your email?

1. It's not mine, not any one else e-mail address (for more info see the first
reply I gave you in alt.os.linux).
2. Can you get spammers to not spam?


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//Aho

Sean Cleary <seanearlyaug@juno.com> wrote:
>
> Please do something, even if you just kill file him, to this troll.

OK. Sean Cleary <seanearlyaug@juno.com> has now been killfiled on the feed.
Glad to be of assistance, troll.

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*Art

Sean Cleary wrote:

> On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "J.O. Aho" <u...@example.net> wrote:
>
>> Please, before you start to accuse people, do better research and you
>> will notice that there are more than one person using
>> u...@example.net/.com. The person whom you accuse me to be uses "no
>> cache" header, so that his posts will be deleted after a while from the
>> NNTP, you don't find this on my posts.
>>
>> Please cancel all your posts where you accuse me to be someone whom I'm
>> not.
>
> I apologise: I am sorry that I messed up. I try to cancel some posts
> only to be told I cant.
> Sean

Most newsservers no longer allow the canceling of posts, I'm afraid, as this
has been abused by spammers and trolls in the past.

I do however still recommend that you use a real newsreader, and that you
have it set up to view all, or at the least the relevant headers. This may
help you track down someone guilty of foul play.

It is possible that your ISP does not provide you with access to a
newsserver - mine for instance has three news mirrors of their own - but
then you could also still use a free newsservice such as aioe.org - go to
http://www.aioe.org for instructions on how to set it up - but then again I
must warn you in advance that aioe.org is automatically /killfiled/ by many
Usenet regulars because it anonymizes the IP address and/or hostname used
by a anyone posting through it, which is of course a much desired feature
for trolls.

Trolls are a pest, just like spam. Being quite a sane person myself, I just
can't understand why people would want to disrupt a newsgroup or spread
libel about a perfectly innocent person or subject, but then again the
planet is full of freaks. :-/

An e-mail address or Usenet/IRC identity is easily faked by someone with ill
intentions, but typically the message ID and other headers may provide for
a clue. And as for "user@example.net/com", you will find that it's quite a
common (fake) e-mail address on Usenet, because of the fact that Google
archives Usenet posts and the spam industry uses webcrawlers to gather
e-mail addresses to send their junk to.

They actually pay script kiddies a few cents per collected e-mail address,
and so if one of those kiddies - and they all really are mainly kids - can
gather a few thousands e-mail addresses, it brings in some extra pocket
money.

Like I said, it's a sick world... :-/

Hope this helps... ;-)

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Aragorn
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

J.O. Aho wrote:

> Aragorn wrote:
>> Sean Cleary wrote:
>>
>>> Cartwright or as you know him (Aho) has been trying to shut down a
>>> good google group.
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/about
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> He has been doing this by posting what looks to be replies to adult
>>> content material, but in doing so he is one of the leading posters of
>>> adult content material to this usually nice group. The material
>>> replied to does not originate in our group and may be made up by him.
>>> He has also been known to post replies to his replies in ways that
>>> just dump more crud on the newsgroup.
>>
>> Forgive my scepticism, but I'm not new to this newsgroup, even though it
>> has been a long time since I've posted anything here, prior to my first
>> reply in this thread here, and so I'm familiar with the posting history
>> (on this group) of most of the regulars here.
>>
>> As such, I have found no foul whatsoever in any posts made by J.O. Aho.
>> On the contrary, he seems to be a very helpful and polite person. ;-)
>
> Thanks for defending me.

No problem - I can't stand injustice. ;-)

> I can't understand why a person can go out and do something like this, I
> did reply to his first post (alt.os.linux) that I would be someone else
> than I'm, and a hour later he spams almost all newsgroups that I subscribe
> to and have made a post at during the last 24h.

Well, I detect a certain degree of newbie-ism in our friend Sean, and I have
seen similar reactions on IRC once. For instance, I once witnessed someone
growing so angry over the fact that a friend of his - a nice woman who was
still quite a newbie on IRC and who didn't understand the strict rules of
that particular channel yet - got kicked out of an IRC channel on DALnet
that he wrote an angry e-mail to Khaled Mardam-Bey, the developer of the
proprietary mIRC client for Windows.

Perhaps our friend Sean still has a lot to learn regarding Usenet... ;-)

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Aragorn
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:26:27 GMT, I waved a wand and this message
magically appears in front of Aragorn:

> mIRC

Thank goodness for x-chat - free if you can compile it!
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Fearsome grindings.

Arthur Hagen wrote:

> Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p...86a7ede14db301
>>
>> Well, I presume that Daniel Robbins will at least keep his stages
>> available, and for the moment the Foundation's developers also still
>> seem to be maintaining the distro, but the crisis - as I see it - is
>> at the management level.
>>
>> We can only hope that they would consent to Daniel Robbins's
>> proposal, and that may not be a bad thing at all.
>
> They won't. It only took a few hours before one of the earls posted a
> honey-drippingly polite reply, the essence of which can be summed up thus:
>
> Dear Mr. Robbins,
>
> FOAD
>
> Yours truly,
> Gentoo Politbureau

You've given me a good laugh there, although I guess I shouldn't be laughing
as it's quite tragic and illustrates all the more how humans tend to follow
their ego and primal instincts rather than their intellect, even if it
leads them into oblivion... :-/

>> Personally I feel that Gentoo has drifted too far off its original course
>> since Robbins left. :-/
>
> It's tough to sail for two different shores at the same time, while the
> second officer really wants the ship to replace the sails, mid-trip, with
> a steam engine /he/ designed, and the first mate spends half his day
> berating the passengers.

That sums it all up right. Sad but true... :-/

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Aragorn
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)