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Old 02-21-2008, 05:06 AM
Matata
 
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Hi

I installed gentoo, everything went smooth.
I emerged kde.
But I don't know how to start it now.
I believe I need to start Xserver first...

I had Mandrake for 1 year and I needed a faster linux system
But I still consider myself a newbie.

Thx Matata
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:06 AM
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:24:40 +0200, Matata <koen@NOSPAM.pi.be> wrote:
> Hi


Hi.

> I installed gentoo, everything went smooth.
> I emerged kde.
> But I don't know how to start it now.
> I believe I need to start Xserver first...


You can either add kdm to your rc.conf, or maybe even just KDE. Also you can
setup your .xinitrc. If you go look at Fluxbox's site <http://fluxbox.sf.net>,
you can see a pretty good example of a .xinitrc. It's in the FAQ , you'll know
when ya get to it -- I hope.

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Old 02-21-2008, 05:06 AM
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Matata <koen@nospam.pi.be> wrote:
> Hi


> I installed gentoo, everything went smooth.
> I emerged kde.
> But I don't know how to start it now.
> I believe I need to start Xserver first...


> I had Mandrake for 1 year and I needed a faster linux system
> But I still consider myself a newbie.


> Thx Matata


/etc/init.d/xdm start (for now)
check the runlevels in etc and you may need an rc-update
for when you reboot.
use man

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Old 02-21-2008, 05:06 AM
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Matata wrote:

> Hi
>
> I installed gentoo, everything went smooth.
> I emerged kde.
> But I don't know how to start it now.
> I believe I need to start Xserver first...
>
> I had Mandrake for 1 year and I needed a faster linux system
> But I still consider myself a newbie.
>
> Thx Matata

edit your /etc/rc.conf file and under Xsession="kde-3.1.2" instead of Gnome
Then when you type startx at the prompt, you will start kde.

This is the prefered method of setting your startx variable no matter what
WM you are using. For Example, if you prefer xfce you can change it to
reflect this.

Do not "rc-update add 'xdm,kdm,gdm' to default" because you wont be able to
boot the system if you don't have X configured properly.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:07 AM
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Whyld-Chyld <test@example.com> wrote:
> Matata wrote:


>> Hi
>>
>> I installed gentoo, everything went smooth.
>> I emerged kde.
>> But I don't know how to start it now.
>> I believe I need to start Xserver first...
>>
>> I had Mandrake for 1 year and I needed a faster linux system
>> But I still consider myself a newbie.
>>
>> Thx Matata

> edit your /etc/rc.conf file and under Xsession="kde-3.1.2" instead of Gnome
> Then when you type startx at the prompt, you will start kde.


> This is the prefered method of setting your startx variable no matter what
> WM you are using. For Example, if you prefer xfce you can change it to
> reflect this.


> Do not "rc-update add 'xdm,kdm,gdm' to default" because you wont be able to
> boot the system if you don't have X configured properly.


oh right .... that would be hard to fix.
but starting it via
/etc/init.d/xdm start
hurts nothing starting kdm if he has it installed.

I see what you mean though
your way you get the desktop (or kdm?)
if he shuts down kde does he still not get kdm till next
startup or server start/restart?
This could be confusing .... I was thinking he should
start from kdm

-Walt

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Old 02-21-2008, 05:07 AM
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A thousand pardons I am out of context asleep at the
wheel.
I was thinking he was further down the line.

Yes the excellent help says exactly that, rc.conf, what
we have all done and forget because it goes so smooth.
You definately want X configured before going anywhere.
And you do not want to play with the Xserver yet.

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Old 02-21-2008, 05:07 AM
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It works now...

Thx for your help!

Greetz Matata
<PenguinsAnonymous> schreef in bericht
news:3f4f830c_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
> A thousand pardons I am out of context asleep at the
> wheel.
> I was thinking he was further down the line.
>
> Yes the excellent help says exactly that, rc.conf, what
> we have all done and forget because it goes so smooth.
> You definately want X configured before going anywhere.
> And you do not want to play with the Xserver yet.
>
> sorry sorry sorry!
>
>
>
>
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PenguinsAnonymous wrote:

> Whyld-Chyld <test@example.com> wrote:
>> Matata wrote:

>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I installed gentoo, everything went smooth.
>>> I emerged kde.
>>> But I don't know how to start it now.
>>> I believe I need to start Xserver first...
>>>
>>> I had Mandrake for 1 year and I needed a faster linux system
>>> But I still consider myself a newbie.
>>>
>>> Thx Matata

>> edit your /etc/rc.conf file and under Xsession="kde-3.1.2" instead of
>> Gnome Then when you type startx at the prompt, you will start kde.

>
>> This is the prefered method of setting your startx variable no matter
>> what WM you are using. For Example, if you prefer xfce you can change it
>> to reflect this.

>
>> Do not "rc-update add 'xdm,kdm,gdm' to default" because you wont be able
>> to boot the system if you don't have X configured properly.

>
> oh right .... that would be hard to fix.
> but starting it via
> /etc/init.d/xdm start
> hurts nothing starting kdm if he has it installed.
>
> I see what you mean though
> your way you get the desktop (or kdm?)
> if he shuts down kde does he still not get kdm till next
> startup or server start/restart?
> This could be confusing .... I was thinking he should
> start from kdm
>
> -Walt
>

Nope according to the docs, startx is the command to use. When you edit
/etc/rc.conf, you tell the it what WM is the default, and it's configured
to look for the appropriate '.xinitrc' file. From there things go quite
smoothly. There was a thread on the gentoo forum that I need to revisit
that allowed you to modify the user bash.rc to autostart the wm at log on.
Very nice script, and it allows you to boot as root into a command prompt
instead of a fragged X when it gets trashed.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:07 AM
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Matata wrote:

> Hi
>
> I installed gentoo, everything went smooth.
> I emerged kde.
> But I don't know how to start it now.
> I believe I need to start Xserver first...
>
> I had Mandrake for 1 year and I needed a faster linux system
> But I still consider myself a newbie.
>
> Thx Matata

You can just run
$ startx
which should start the basic X server - if your XF86Config is OK
If startx is OK then
$ kdm
this will start x for you and give the login screen
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:07 AM
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> Nope according to the docs, startx is the command to use. When you edit
> /etc/rc.conf, you tell the it what WM is the default, and it's configured
> to look for the appropriate '.xinitrc' file. From there things go quite
> smoothly. There was a thread on the gentoo forum that I need to revisit
> that allowed you to modify the user bash.rc to autostart the wm at log on.
> Very nice script, and it allows you to boot as root into a command prompt
> instead of a fragged X when it gets trashed


I think we agree as I said I was out of context.
When you consider that the kde emerge exposes all the
other packages and I believe XFree? then your X has
not been configured.
In such displaymanager would only hurt you. (the loop
you spoke of)
Remembering too that the original post did not allude
to this. I just jumped in both feet
And I hate pulling them out of my mouth.

Once X configured though (for the average user) it is
the display manager (as set in your rc.conf) that
makes the desktop selection. (ie kdm, gdm)


-Walt


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