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Old 05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
gst
 
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Default "desperately tiny" rdbms setup

Hi everyone,

i would like to try to install an oracle rdbms (possibly XE) on a
machine which is also the main development environment and is _way_
"low spec" (1gig, laptop). it runs win xp (unfortunately).

thus i would like to setup an "extremely lilliputian" version.
everything from 8i to 11g/xe should be ok; is it feasible to squeeze
the sga under 32mb? reading the docs i got the impression that it's
practically impossible but... i dare to ask. java

do you have some urls (howtos, etc.) handy that could be useful?

thank you in advance
gst
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
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On May 12, 4:26 pm, gst <groups.spamt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> i would like to try to install an oracle rdbms (possibly XE) on a
> machine which is also the main development environment and is _way_
> "low spec" (1gig, laptop). it runs win xp (unfortunately).
>
> thus i would like to setup an "extremely lilliputian" version.
> everything from 8i to 11g/xe should be ok; is it feasible to squeeze
> the sga under 32mb? reading the docs i got the impression that it's
> practically impossible but... i dare to ask. java
>
> do you have some urls (howtos, etc.) handy that could be useful?
>
> thank you in advance
> gst


sorry, sentence broken: "java".... can be disabled, i don't use it.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
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On May 12, 9:26*am, gst <groups.spamt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> i would like to try to install an oracle rdbms (possibly XE) on a
> machine which is also the main development environment and is _way_
> "low spec" (1gig, laptop). it runs win xp (unfortunately).
>
> thus i would like to setup an "extremely lilliputian" version.
> everything from 8i to 11g/xe should be ok; is it feasible to squeeze
> the sga under 32mb? reading the docs i got the impression that it's
> practically impossible but... i dare to ask. java
>
> do you have some urls (howtos, etc.) handy that could be useful?
>
> thank you in advance
> gst


For 10.2.0.3 the fixed size of the SGA is 2 MB; squeezing your buffer
cache, redo buffers and various pools into 30 MB is, I think, asking
the impossible. You MAY be able to get a database to start, and run
(with glacial speed) with a 32 MB SGA but I can't expect it to be of
much use to anyone who might want to actually do something productive.


David Fitzjarrell
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:39 PM
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On May 12, 5:37 pm, "fitzjarr...@cox.net" <orat...@msn.com> wrote:
> the impossible. You MAY be able to get a database to start, and run
> (with glacial speed) with a 32 MB SGA but I can't expect it to be of
> much use to anyone who might want to actually do something productive.
> David Fitzjarrell


Thanks David,
I'll try to put my boss into hardware-shopping-spree-mode; maybe this
would be the shortest route to an usable development platform
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:08 AM
Gints Plivna
 
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On 16 Maijs, 11:03, Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 1GB laptop would default to 700MB for Oracle. Why aim for 32MB?!?
> about 100M is workable, and even allows for some options.
> I have been working 512MB~1GB XP laptops with the database, Designer
> and iAS (pl/sql) running. Nothing to be jealous about, but more
> workable than my current 4GB Vista (yuck!)


I worked with XE on my ancient laptop with 256 RAM, ~700MHz. SGA was
140M, for syntax checking and some tests it was quite ok, even created
tables with a few million rows and count(*) worked
Don't remember probably Oracle something sceptical said upon
install

Gints Plivna
http://www.gplivna.eu
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:08 AM
joel garry
 
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On May 20, 11:59*am, Gints Plivna <gints.pli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 Maijs, 11:03, Frank van Bortel <frank.van.bor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > 1GB laptop would default to 700MB for Oracle. Why aim for 32MB?!?
> > about 100M is workable, and even allows for some options.
> > I have been working 512MB~1GB XP laptops with the database, Designer
> > and iAS (pl/sql) running. Nothing to be jealous about, but more
> > workable than my current 4GB Vista (yuck!)

>
> I worked with XE on my ancient laptop with 256 RAM, ~700MHz. SGA was
> 140M, for syntax checking and some tests it was quite ok, even created
> tables with a few million rows and count(*) worked
> Don't remember probably Oracle something sceptical said upon
> install
>
> Gints Plivnahttp://www.gplivna.eu


Now that you mention it, my work XP PC has 1G, crappy old full disks
and runs XE fine, as long as I don't leave it in archivelogmode and
fill the crappy old disks the rest of the way up. Stupid adobe and
word docs take so much room...

But I do all my serious work on the servers.

jg
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