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I've tried to install oracle 7.3 on a pc running under windows nt
server SP4. During the setup, i get the
message "the oracle installer was not able to stop and delete the
oracle agent service because of permission problems.please make sure to
log with the administrator privilefes before attempting the
installation of oracle intelligent agent".
Is there someone who could help me to resolve this problem. Of course
the best way will be to install
oracle 9 or 10 on my server, but that is not free of charges ...
Thanks for your help.

Patrice WITTE

Just as free of charge as 7.3!!! that is: 7.3 is NOT free of charge!

And XE actually is free of charge, provided you run it on a single
processor machine, with less than 1GB memory for Oracle, and less than
4GB of database!

Would you not reconsider your choice for 7.3?

Frank van Bortel

PS: When for non-production (study, development), every version
actually is free to use - read the developers licence on the download
page of otn.oracle.com.

kergoaler@free.fr wrote:
> I've tried to install oracle 7.3 on a pc running under windows nt
> server SP4. During the setup, i get the

NT or Win 2k? That's a difference.

> message "the oracle installer was not able to stop and delete the
> oracle agent service because of permission problems.please make sure
> to log with the administrator privilefes before attempting the
> installation of oracle intelligent agent".
> Is there someone who could help me to resolve this problem.

I guess so (hint: contact your local admin).

> Of course
> the best way will be to install
> oracle 9 or 10 on my server, but that is not free of charges ...
> Thanks for your help.

Frank commented on that already.

Cheers

robert

frank.van.bortel@gmail.com schrieb:
> Just as free of charge as 7.3!!! that is: 7.3 is NOT free of charge!
>
> And XE actually is free of charge, provided you run it on a single
> processor machine, with less than 1GB memory for Oracle, and less than
> 4GB of database!
>

If i understood it correctly, you are not even restricted in the
hardware choice by Oracle XE - if you run it on 4CPU machine with 20Gb
memory ( i think there is no license violation ) , database will use
only one cpu and up to 1Gb memory, if you try to insert over 4Gb user
data - you run in the error message. And you will not be able to install
more than one XE instance per machine.

Best regards

Maxim

Maxim Demenko wrote:
> frank.van.bortel@gmail.com schrieb:
>> Just as free of charge as 7.3!!! that is: 7.3 is NOT free of charge!
>>
>> And XE actually is free of charge, provided you run it on a single
>> processor machine, with less than 1GB memory for Oracle, and less than
>> 4GB of database!
>>
>
> If i understood it correctly, you are not even restricted in the
> hardware choice by Oracle XE - if you run it on 4CPU machine with 20Gb
> memory ( i think there is no license violation ) , database will use
> only one cpu and up to 1Gb memory, if you try to insert over 4Gb user
> data - you run in the error message. And you will not be able to install
> more than one XE instance per machine.
>
> Best regards
>
> Maxim
No sure about the # of procs, but I said 1GB memory *for Oracle*...

--
Regards,
Frank van Bortel

Top-posting is one way to shut me up...

Frank van Bortel schrieb:
> Maxim Demenko wrote:
>> frank.van.bortel@gmail.com schrieb:
>>> Just as free of charge as 7.3!!! that is: 7.3 is NOT free of charge!
>>>
>>> And XE actually is free of charge, provided you run it on a single
>>> processor machine, with less than 1GB memory for Oracle, and less than
>>> 4GB of database!
>>>
>> If i understood it correctly, you are not even restricted in the
>> hardware choice by Oracle XE - if you run it on 4CPU machine with 20Gb
>> memory ( i think there is no license violation ) , database will use
>> only one cpu and up to 1Gb memory, if you try to insert over 4Gb user
>> data - you run in the error message. And you will not be able to install
>> more than one XE instance per machine.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Maxim
> No sure about the # of procs, but I said 1GB memory *for Oracle*...
>

Most likely i misunderstood it.
Regarding the cpu's - this is from license agreement

http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/c...c.htm#BABHFGHA
Any use of the Oracle Database Express Edition is subject to the
following limitations; 1. Express Edition is limited to a single
instance on any server; 2. Express Edition may be installed on a
multiple CPU server, but may only be executed on one processor in any
server; 3. Express Edition may only be used to support up to 4GB of user
data (not including Express Edition system data); 4. Express Edition may
use up to 1 GB RAM of available memory.

Best regards

Maxim

On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:19:05 +0100, Maxim Demenko wrote:


> Regarding the cpu's - this is from license agreement
>
> http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/c...c.htm#BABHFGHA
> Any use of the Oracle Database Express Edition is subject to the
> following limitations; 1. Express Edition is limited to a single
> instance on any server; 2. Express Edition may be installed on a
> multiple CPU server, but may only be executed on one processor in any
> server; 3. Express Edition may only be used to support up to 4GB of user
> data (not including Express Edition system data); 4. Express Edition may
> use up to 1 GB RAM of available memory.
>

Those are technical limitations, not license limitations, that Oracle has
imposed on XE. From what I can tell, XE will monitor and enforce those
restrictions by itself.

It will never parallelize operations (single CPU) even if on a
multiple-CPU machine. It will never use more than 1G for the combined
SGA+PGA. It will error out when attempts are made to exceed 4GB *user
data* (non-system tablespaces). The SID/DatabaseName is hard coded as XE
and seems to be checked by the kernel.

--
Hans Forbrich
Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting
mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_gmail.com
*** Top posting [replies] guarantees I won't respond. ***

"HansF" <News.Hans@telus.net> wrote in message
newsan.2006.03.09.20.32.32.764549@telus.net...
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:19:05 +0100, Maxim Demenko wrote:
>
>
> > Regarding the cpu's - this is from license agreement
> >
> >
http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/c...c.htm#BABHFGHA
> > Any use of the Oracle Database Express Edition is subject to the
> > following limitations; 1. Express Edition is limited to a single
> > instance on any server; 2. Express Edition may be installed on a
> > multiple CPU server, but may only be executed on one processor in any
> > server; 3. Express Edition may only be used to support up to 4GB of user
> > data (not including Express Edition system data); 4. Express Edition may
> > use up to 1 GB RAM of available memory.
> >
>
> Those are technical limitations, not license limitations, that Oracle has
> imposed on XE. From what I can tell, XE will monitor and enforce those
> restrictions by itself.
>
> It will never parallelize operations (single CPU) even if on a
> multiple-CPU machine. It will never use more than 1G for the combined
> SGA+PGA. It will error out when attempts are made to exceed 4GB *user
> data* (non-system tablespaces). The SID/DatabaseName is hard coded as XE
> and seems to be checked by the kernel.
>
> --
> Hans Forbrich
> Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting
> mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_gmail.com
> *** Top posting [replies] guarantees I won't respond. ***
>

system tablespaces being: SYSTEM, TEMP, UNDO ?

--
Terry Dykstra
Canadian Forest Oil Ltd.

On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:04:17 +0000, Terry Dykstra wrote:

> "HansF" <News.Hans@telus.net> wrote in message
> newsan.2006.03.09.20.32.32.764549@telus.net...
>> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:19:05 +0100, Maxim Demenko wrote:

>>
>> It will never parallelize operations (single CPU) even if on a
>> multiple-CPU machine. It will never use more than 1G for the combined
>> SGA+PGA. It will error out when attempts are made to exceed 4GB *user
>> data* (non-system tablespaces). The SID/DatabaseName is hard coded as XE
>> and seems to be checked by the kernel.
>>
>
> system tablespaces being: SYSTEM, TEMP, UNDO ?

And sysaux.

Yes, these tablespaces are not included (or, apparently more accurate,
there is compensation for the size of these tablespaces) in the storage
calculation.

--
Hans Forbrich
Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting
mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_gmail.com
*** Top posting [replies] guarantees I won't respond. ***

I feel problems araising in the "may only be executed on one processor
in any server" versus "XE will monitor and enforce those restrictions
by itself."
Just curious: how will XE prevent itself from floating over
(multi-core) processors?

It would be great, if you would not have to worry about that aspect,
but I have my doubts.

Anyone who can clarify this: is an XE install on a multi-core, or
multi-processor environment legal (as XE will use just one processor),
or do you (the user) have to make provisions so that XE will only use
one core/processor?

(Processor binding on Windows?!?)