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Old 02-24-2008, 05:30 AM
Johannes
 
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Default pga_aggregate_target plus sort_area_size set in init.ora

Hi all!

I hava an installation of Oracle 9.2 with pga_aggregate_target set in
init.ora.
As this parameter replaces e.g. sort_area_size and hash_area_size and other
pga relevant parameters in init.ora (in dedicated server systems),
I don't know why my predecessor let this parameters set in init.ora.
They seem to be used setting this memory pools, becaus using "show parameter
xxx"
prompts the assigned values.
I think I have to delete this parameters (sort_area_size,... and all other
pga relevant parameters)
to handle pga_aggregate_target correct.
What do you think about?
Thank you all!

Johannes


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Old 02-24-2008, 05:30 AM
Jonathan Lewis
 
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Default Re: pga_aggregate_target plus sort_area_size set in init.ora


You don't need to delete sort_area_size to use the
pga_aggregate_target. You need only make sure
that you have set workarea_size_policy to AUTO.

It is possible that it has been left there because some
sessions invoke
alter session set workarea_size_policy = manual;

In the absence of a specific value, this would
cause such sessions to fall back to 64K

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"Johannes" <johannes@merckle.de> wrote in message
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> Hi all!
>
> I hava an installation of Oracle 9.2 with pga_aggregate_target set in
> init.ora.
> As this parameter replaces e.g. sort_area_size and hash_area_size and

other
> pga relevant parameters in init.ora (in dedicated server systems),
> I don't know why my predecessor let this parameters set in init.ora.
> They seem to be used setting this memory pools, becaus using "show

parameter
> xxx"
> prompts the assigned values.
> I think I have to delete this parameters (sort_area_size,... and all other
> pga relevant parameters)
> to handle pga_aggregate_target correct.
> What do you think about?
> Thank you all!
>
> Johannes
>
>



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Old 02-24-2008, 05:30 AM
Connor McDonald
 
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Default Re: pga_aggregate_target plus sort_area_size set in init.ora

Jonathan Lewis wrote:
>
> You don't need to delete sort_area_size to use the
> pga_aggregate_target. You need only make sure
> that you have set workarea_size_policy to AUTO.
>
> It is possible that it has been left there because some
> sessions invoke
> alter session set workarea_size_policy = manual;
>
> In the absence of a specific value, this would
> cause such sessions to fall back to 64K
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Jonathan Lewis
>
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
>
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html
> The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
>
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html
> Optimising Oracle Seminar - schedule updated May 1st
>
> "Johannes" <johannes@merckle.de> wrote in message
> news:2kfk5aF1oqsqU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I hava an installation of Oracle 9.2 with pga_aggregate_target set in
> > init.ora.
> > As this parameter replaces e.g. sort_area_size and hash_area_size and

> other
> > pga relevant parameters in init.ora (in dedicated server systems),
> > I don't know why my predecessor let this parameters set in init.ora.
> > They seem to be used setting this memory pools, becaus using "show

> parameter
> > xxx"
> > prompts the assigned values.
> > I think I have to delete this parameters (sort_area_size,... and all other
> > pga relevant parameters)
> > to handle pga_aggregate_target correct.
> > What do you think about?
> > Thank you all!
> >
> > Johannes
> >
> >


Can't remember if its 9.0 or 9.2, but I think one or both of those
versions doesn't support pga_agg_ for shared server and thus falls back
to s_a_s et al.

hth
connor
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:30 AM
Jonathan Lewis
 
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Default Re: pga_aggregate_target plus sort_area_size set in init.ora


Good point - big memory allocations for shared
servers are outside the scope of pga_aggregate_target
because some components of the memory have to be
in the UGA, which is kept in the SGA.

I think it's still true for 9.2 - by the way. Haven't
thought about checking it for 10.1 yet.


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Jonathan Lewis

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"Connor McDonald" <connor_mcdonald@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jonathan Lewis wrote:


>
> Can't remember if its 9.0 or 9.2, but I think one or both of those
> versions doesn't support pga_agg_ for shared server and thus falls back
> to s_a_s et al.
>
> hth
> connor
> --
> Connor McDonald



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