I didn't find anything on metalink but maybe was distracted?

Curious as to when oracle may or will start shipping a patchset for
11g database especially on 64 bit linux.

Thanks in advance.

hpuxrac wrote:
> I didn't find anything on metalink but maybe was distracted?
>
> Curious as to when oracle may or will start shipping a patchset for
> 11g database especially on 64 bit linux.
>
> Thanks in advance.

Oracle never releases, in advance, such information.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

On Mar 26, 3:35*pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote:
> hpuxrac wrote:
> > I didn't find anything on metalink but maybe was distracted?
>
> > Curious as to when oracle may or will start shipping a patchset for
> > 11g database especially on 64 bit linux.
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> Oracle never releases, in advance, such information.

Strike 1 ...

hpuxrac wrote:
> On Mar 26, 3:35 pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote:
>> hpuxrac wrote:
>>> I didn't find anything on metalink but maybe was distracted?
>>> Curious as to when oracle may or will start shipping a patchset for
>>> 11g database especially on 64 bit linux.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>> Oracle never releases, in advance, such information.
>
> Strike 1 ...

As opposed to announcing release dates in advance for marketing
and public relations purposes and then pushing code out the door
untested? Hardly!
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

On Mar 26, 3:06*pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote:
> hpuxrac wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 3:35 pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote:
> >> hpuxrac wrote:
> >>> I didn't find anything on metalink but maybe was distracted?
> >>> Curious as to when oracle may or will start shipping a patchset for
> >>> 11g database especially on 64 bit linux.
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >> Oracle never releases, in advance, such information.
>
> > Strike 1 ...
>
> As opposed to announcing release dates in advance for marketing
> and public relations purposes and then pushing code out the door
> untested? Hardly!

Jeeezzz, have you guys already forgotten the "Propably version
10.2.0.4 for Linux will be released in July 2008" prediction less than
a month ago? The quick links show that for linux 64 bit already,
though not Itanium or the IBM stuff.

It's all rumour and innuendo until the fat patch downloads.

So watch this space: http://wordpress.com/tag/oracle-11g-features-posts/

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
"What is the similarity between air traffic controllers and pilots?
If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies; If ATC screws up... the pilot
dies."

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:06:20 -0700, DA Morgan wrote:

> As opposed to announcing release dates in advance for marketing and
> public relations purposes and then pushing code out the door untested?

Are we talking about the company that has released Oracle 10.2.x series
of bugs? Of course they are pushing untested code. OUI stands for
"Oracle's Untested Infuriator".

--
Mladen Gogala
http://mgogala.freehostia.com

On Mar 27, 12:57 pm, Mladen Gogala <mgog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:06:20 -0700, DA Morgan wrote:
> > As opposed to announcing release dates in advance for marketing and
> > public relations purposes and then pushing code out the door untested?
>
> Are we talking about the company that has released Oracle 10.2.x series
> of bugs? Of course they are pushing untested code. OUI stands for
> "Oracle's Untested Infuriator".
>
> --
> Mladen Gogalahttp://mgogala.freehostia.com

For software as complex as Oracle Database and its numerous technology
stacks on as vast number of platforms as it runs on, each with its own
bugs, glitches and "features", I'd say the product is amazingly
stable. You can't possibly test it internally for each and every
possible use case on every possible hardware and software combination.
That's what customers are for. At least they fix P1 bugs pretty
fast. Sometimes.

Regards,
Vladimir M. Zakharychev
N-Networks, makers of Dynamic PSP(tm)
http://www.dynamicpsp.com

On Mar 26, 6:44 pm, joel garry <joel-ga...@home.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 3:06 pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote:
>
> > hpuxrac wrote:
> > > On Mar 26, 3:35 pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote:
> > >> hpuxrac wrote:
> > >>> I didn't find anything on metalink but maybe was distracted?
> > >>> Curious as to when oracle may or will start shipping a patchset for
> > >>> 11g database especially on 64 bit linux.
> > >>> Thanks in advance.
> > >> Oracle never releases, in advance, such information.
>
> > > Strike 1 ...
>
> > As opposed to announcing release dates in advance for marketing
> > and public relations purposes and then pushing code out the door
> > untested? Hardly!
>
> Jeeezzz, have you guys already forgotten the "Propably version
> 10.2.0.4 for Linux will be released in July 2008" prediction less than
> a month ago? The quick links show that for linux 64 bit already,
> though not Itanium or the IBM stuff.
>
> It's all rumour and innuendo until the fat patch downloads.
>
> So watch this space: http://wordpress.com/tag/oracle-11g-features-posts/
>
> jg
> --
> @home.com is bogus.
> "What is the similarity between air traffic controllers and pilots?
> If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies; If ATC screws up... the pilot
> dies."

We had an instance crash on our sole 32 bit Linux platform a couple of
days ago, and the support analyst pointed us to the 10.2.0.4
patchset. I didn't ask, but wasn't that supposed to still be password
protected?

Mladen Gogala wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:06:20 -0700, DA Morgan wrote:
>
>> As opposed to announcing release dates in advance for marketing and
>> public relations purposes and then pushing code out the door untested?
>
> Are we talking about the company that has released Oracle 10.2.x series
> of bugs? Of course they are pushing untested code. OUI stands for
> "Oracle's Untested Infuriator".

I spent many hundreds of hours testing it and can assure you, based
on the number of betas, that the testing was thorough.

Did some bugs sneak through? Absolutely. If you want perfection go
back to 3x5 cards. But given the huge number of features and the
complexity of the product the small number of bugs found is a triumph
of good design, and good change management.

Consider 10gR2 versus Windows. Two very complex systems. Oracle releases
regularly with major new features and "it works." Anyone want to trade
their XP or Linux for Vista?
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

On Mar 27, 4:58 pm, DA Morgan <damor...@psoug.org> wrote:
> Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:06:20 -0700, DA Morgan wrote:
>
> >> As opposed to announcing release dates in advance for marketing and
> >> public relations purposes and then pushing code out the door untested?
>
> > Are we talking about the company that has released Oracle 10.2.x series
> > of bugs? Of course they are pushing untested code. OUI stands for
> > "Oracle's Untested Infuriator".
>
> I spent many hundreds of hours testing it and can assure you, based
> on the number of betas, that the testing was thorough.
>
> Did some bugs sneak through? Absolutely. If you want perfection go
> back to 3x5 cards. But given the huge number of features and the
> complexity of the product the small number of bugs found is a triumph
> of good design, and good change management.
>
> Consider 10gR2 versus Windows. Two very complex systems. Oracle releases
> regularly with major new features and "it works." Anyone want to trade
> their XP or Linux for Vista?
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
> University of Washington
> damor...@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
> Puget Sound Oracle Users Groupwww.psoug.org

Honestly i've to say that i've encountered few bugs on 10.2.0.x and
nothing blocking. So i can say
that is not so full of bugs, also if the list of patches on metalink
is huge. It is a complex
software and something can go wrong.
I think it is a bit early for asking a patchset for 11g today.

regards,
Cristian Cudizio

http://oracledb.wordpress.com
http://cristiancudizio.wordpress.com