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| Hi, I need to find reason to migrate from Oracle Forms to a J2EE Web application (using UIX / ADF Faces and using JHeadStart to make it rapid development ). The main reason actualy because we want to make J2EE as our standard. The application is HR accessed from many branches. If fully implemented, maximum user could be 1000 Could any please tell me, actually what are the benefits of using J2EE Web Apps compared to Oracle Forms ? (e.g : using less bandwidth ? faster page rendering ? any other reasons ?) Thank you for your help, xtanto |
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| stephen.howard@us.pwcglobal.com wrote: > I know this is not the answer for which you are searching, but IMHO, > J2EE is the most convuluted piece of crap/technology I have ever > seen...and I am a Sun Certified Java Developer! > > I also agree with Hans - it is ALWAYS political. If you can make your > way through all off the J2EE stubs/skeltons/home interfaces, etc., then > move on to deployment descriptors/entity beans (where they decide when > and how often to commit) to get an application to work that has > probably worked reasonably well with forms, go nuts, but I honestly > think that for 98% of the apps out there, it is unnecessarily > complicated. > > Regards, > > Steve > Gee... can I quote you on that? Not being exposed to Java (I did Intro to Java with 1.0/1.1, late 90's) it somehow doesn't make much impression when I start this type of discussion. -- Thank you, Frank van Bortel |
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| xtanto@hotmail.com wrote: > Could any please tell me, actually what are the benefits of using J2EE > Web Apps compared to Oracle Forms ? > (e.g : using less bandwidth ? faster page rendering ? any other reasons > ?) Overblown, overhyped, etc... Have you considered Oracle's beautifully simple, scalable alternative: HTMLDB? You can try it out for free here: http://www.oracle.com/technology/pro...ldb/index.html |
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| On Wed, 18 May 2005 03:42:43 -0700, xtanto interested us by writing: You already have your reasons - political. For technical reasons and thought processes, I recommend reading "Better, Lighter, Faster Java" pub. by O'Reilly before making the jump. -- Hans Forbrich Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_gmail.com |
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| I know this is not the answer for which you are searching, but IMHO, J2EE is the most convuluted piece of crap/technology I have ever seen...and I am a Sun Certified Java Developer! I also agree with Hans - it is ALWAYS political. If you can make your way through all off the J2EE stubs/skeltons/home interfaces, etc., then move on to deployment descriptors/entity beans (where they decide when and how often to commit) to get an application to work that has probably worked reasonably well with forms, go nuts, but I honestly think that for 98% of the apps out there, it is unnecessarily complicated. Regards, Steve |
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| stephen.howard@us.pwcglobal.com wrote: > If you can make your > way through all off the J2EE stubs/skeltons/home interfaces, etc., Use EJB3 or hibernate. |
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| stephen.howard@us.pwcglobal.com wrote: > I know this is not the answer for which you are searching, but IMHO, > J2EE is the most convuluted piece of crap/technology I have ever > seen...and I am a Sun Certified Java Developer! > > I also agree with Hans - it is ALWAYS political. If you can make your > way through all off the J2EE stubs/skeltons/home interfaces, etc., then > move on to deployment descriptors/entity beans (where they decide when > and how often to commit) to get an application to work that has > probably worked reasonably well with forms, go nuts, but I honestly > think that for 98% of the apps out there, it is unnecessarily > complicated. > > Regards, > > Steve > Gee... can I quote you on that? Not being exposed to Java (I did Intro to Java with 1.0/1.1, late 90's) it somehow doesn't make much impression when I start this type of discussion. -- Thank you, Frank van Bortel |
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| xtanto@hotmail.com wrote: > Could any please tell me, actually what are the benefits of using J2EE > Web Apps compared to Oracle Forms ? > (e.g : using less bandwidth ? faster page rendering ? any other reasons > ?) Overblown, overhyped, etc... Have you considered Oracle's beautifully simple, scalable alternative: HTMLDB? You can try it out for free here: http://www.oracle.com/technology/pro...ldb/index.html |
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