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Old 02-26-2008, 07:44 AM
Shakespeare
 
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"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
news:1191339240.206371@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
> Richard Foote wrote:
>
>> Perhaps Oracle has colour coded syntax after all

>
> 11g does ... for example:
> exec dbms_workload_repository.add_colored_sql('5rygsj4d bw6jt',
> 1692970157);


And who needs documentation for that? Parameter values like 5rygsj4dbw6jt
and 1692970157 are almost self-documenting......
But it does not seem to have anything to do with color coded syntax....
Maybe you could use CCVI

Shakespeare


>
> But I suspect it is technically well beyond the capabilities of
> someone that can't handle a search engine.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> University of Washington
> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
> www.psoug.org



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"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
news:1191356171.450453@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
> Shakespeare wrote:
>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>> news:1191339240.206371@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>> Richard Foote wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps Oracle has colour coded syntax after all
>>> 11g does ... for example:
>>> exec dbms_workload_repository.add_colored_sql('5rygsj4d bw6jt',
>>> 1692970157);

>
> 11g Docs ---> http://www.oracle.com/pls/db111/homepage
>
> Search for "DBMS_WORKLOAD_REPOSITORY"
> Scroll down to "ADD_COLORED_SQL" Procedure
>
> alternatively search for: "COLORED SQL"
>
> If someone can't use a search engine they probably shouldn't be
> allowed to touch a keyboard without adult supervision. <g>
>
> If one looks up "Colored SQL" in Morgan's library at www.psoug.org
> they will find the following:
>
> dbms_workload_repository.add_colored_sql(
> sql_id IN VARCHAR2,
> dbid IN NUMBER DEFAULT NULL);
>
> If you don't know what a sql_id and dbid are the demo clearly shows
> how to get both.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> But the point of my post was a bit light-hearted ... while you won't
> find colored SQL in other databases ... Oracle now officially has it.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> University of Washington
> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
> www.psoug.org


Well, I already looked it up on PSOUG and still I think it has nothing to do
with syntax highlighting, or the description is not correct, but maybe I'm
missing something somewhere.. I think colored_Sql should be something like
marked_sql. But I get the point... so was mine. I'll try this for my next
11g demo (next week)
Tried CCVI yet ? ;-)

Shakespeare.


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"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
news:1191356284.554952@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
> Shakespeare wrote:
>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>> news:1191342473.587093@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>> Shakespeare wrote:
>>>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:1191286464.480000@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>>>> Shakespeare wrote:
>>>>>> <sybrandb@hccnet.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>>>> news:6obuf3pljqn6v5ma6gkfhc7qlg9n1b6l6p@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> Please look at
>>>>>>> http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/tonyro...ve-it-bad.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE http://tahiti.oracle.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a yoke Mr. Rogerson is, self-appointed 'expert'!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sybrand Bakker
>>>>>>> Senior Oracle DBA
>>>>>> I remember a short while ago, someone commented on DA's blog about
>>>>>> not having the possibility to post comments there. As far as I can
>>>>>> see, mr. Rogerson has a comment link. So please go fight your wars
>>>>>> over there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shakespeare
>>>>> The intent of what I post is to get information out the the community.
>>>>> Not to provide a competitor to this usenet group or OTN or others such
>>>>> as Tom Kyte who more than adequately fulfill that mission.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost all blogs currently run on mySQL and the Oracle Users Group
>>>>> does not want to host unless the blog software is based on APEX.
>>>>> Anyone
>>>>> have the code and want to donate it please let me know.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>>>> University of Washington
>>>>> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>>>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>>>> www.psoug.org
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> this post was not meant to criticize your BLOG, it was about people
>>>> complaining they could not make comments there. If they want to make
>>>> comments on BLOG's, and if they can on Tony Rogersons blog, why take
>>>> the whole conversation to CDOS?
>>>>
>>>> BTW: a Blog on APEX might be a good idea...
>>>>
>>>> Shakespeare
>>> I am working with another Oracle Ace, Eddie Award, to either find one
>>> or write one.
>>> --
>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>> University of Washington
>>> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>> www.psoug.org

>>
>> Ah, and who stated that it's not polite to change people's names in
>> newsgroups? <g>
>>
>> Shakespeare

>
> Worse than a typo ... a lack of proof reading. I originally wrote
> Ace award winner and then reworked the sentence. Thanks (grumble
> grumble) for catching it.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> University of Washington
> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
> www.psoug.org


As I said looooong time ago: what's in a name?

Shakespeare


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Old 02-26-2008, 07:44 AM
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Shakespeare wrote:
> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
> news:1191356171.450453@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>> Shakespeare wrote:
>>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>>> news:1191339240.206371@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>>> Richard Foote wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps Oracle has colour coded syntax after all
>>>> 11g does ... for example:
>>>> exec dbms_workload_repository.add_colored_sql('5rygsj4d bw6jt',
>>>> 1692970157);

>> 11g Docs ---> http://www.oracle.com/pls/db111/homepage
>>
>> Search for "DBMS_WORKLOAD_REPOSITORY"
>> Scroll down to "ADD_COLORED_SQL" Procedure
>>
>> alternatively search for: "COLORED SQL"
>>
>> If someone can't use a search engine they probably shouldn't be
>> allowed to touch a keyboard without adult supervision. <g>
>>
>> If one looks up "Colored SQL" in Morgan's library at www.psoug.org
>> they will find the following:
>>
>> dbms_workload_repository.add_colored_sql(
>> sql_id IN VARCHAR2,
>> dbid IN NUMBER DEFAULT NULL);
>>
>> If you don't know what a sql_id and dbid are the demo clearly shows
>> how to get both.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> But the point of my post was a bit light-hearted ... while you won't
>> find colored SQL in other databases ... Oracle now officially has it.
>> --
>> Daniel A. Morgan
>> University of Washington
>> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>> www.psoug.org

>
> Well, I already looked it up on PSOUG and still I think it has nothing to do
> with syntax highlighting, or the description is not correct, but maybe I'm
> missing something somewhere.. I think colored_Sql should be something like
> marked_sql. But I get the point... so was mine. I'll try this for my next
> 11g demo (next week)
> Tried CCVI yet ? ;-)
>
> Shakespeare.


It has zero to do with highlighting. As I said my post was intended to
be light-hearted.

That said it is a really nice new 11g feature.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org
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Shakespeare wrote:
> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
> news:1191356284.554952@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>> Shakespeare wrote:
>>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>>> news:1191342473.587093@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>>> Shakespeare wrote:
>>>>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>>>>> news:1191286464.480000@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>>>>> Shakespeare wrote:
>>>>>>> <sybrandb@hccnet.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>>>>> news:6obuf3pljqn6v5ma6gkfhc7qlg9n1b6l6p@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Please look at
>>>>>>>> http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/tonyro...ve-it-bad.aspx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE http://tahiti.oracle.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a yoke Mr. Rogerson is, self-appointed 'expert'!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sybrand Bakker
>>>>>>>> Senior Oracle DBA
>>>>>>> I remember a short while ago, someone commented on DA's blog about
>>>>>>> not having the possibility to post comments there. As far as I can
>>>>>>> see, mr. Rogerson has a comment link. So please go fight your wars
>>>>>>> over there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shakespeare
>>>>>> The intent of what I post is to get information out the the community.
>>>>>> Not to provide a competitor to this usenet group or OTN or others such
>>>>>> as Tom Kyte who more than adequately fulfill that mission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Almost all blogs currently run on mySQL and the Oracle Users Group
>>>>>> does not want to host unless the blog software is based on APEX.
>>>>>> Anyone
>>>>>> have the code and want to donate it please let me know.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>>>>> University of Washington
>>>>>> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>>>>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>>>>> www.psoug.org
>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>
>>>>> this post was not meant to criticize your BLOG, it was about people
>>>>> complaining they could not make comments there. If they want to make
>>>>> comments on BLOG's, and if they can on Tony Rogersons blog, why take
>>>>> the whole conversation to CDOS?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: a Blog on APEX might be a good idea...
>>>>>
>>>>> Shakespeare
>>>> I am working with another Oracle Ace, Eddie Award, to either find one
>>>> or write one.
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>>> University of Washington
>>>> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>>> www.psoug.org
>>> Ah, and who stated that it's not polite to change people's names in
>>> newsgroups? <g>
>>>
>>> Shakespeare

>> Worse than a typo ... a lack of proof reading. I originally wrote
>> Ace award winner and then reworked the sentence. Thanks (grumble
>> grumble) for catching it.
>> --
>> Daniel A. Morgan
>> University of Washington
>> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>> www.psoug.org

>
> As I said looooong time ago: what's in a name?
>
> Shakespeare


And here was thinking I was the ancient one. <g>
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:44 AM
Shakespeare
 
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"DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
news:1191368132.302991@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
> Shakespeare wrote:
>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>> news:1191356171.450453@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>> Shakespeare wrote:
>>>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:1191339240.206371@bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>>>> Richard Foote wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps Oracle has colour coded syntax after all
>>>>> 11g does ... for example:
>>>>> exec dbms_workload_repository.add_colored_sql('5rygsj4d bw6jt',
>>>>> 1692970157);
>>> 11g Docs ---> http://www.oracle.com/pls/db111/homepage
>>>
>>> Search for "DBMS_WORKLOAD_REPOSITORY"
>>> Scroll down to "ADD_COLORED_SQL" Procedure
>>>
>>> alternatively search for: "COLORED SQL"
>>>
>>> If someone can't use a search engine they probably shouldn't be
>>> allowed to touch a keyboard without adult supervision. <g>
>>>
>>> If one looks up "Colored SQL" in Morgan's library at www.psoug.org
>>> they will find the following:
>>>
>>> dbms_workload_repository.add_colored_sql(
>>> sql_id IN VARCHAR2,
>>> dbid IN NUMBER DEFAULT NULL);
>>>
>>> If you don't know what a sql_id and dbid are the demo clearly shows
>>> how to get both.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> But the point of my post was a bit light-hearted ... while you won't
>>> find colored SQL in other databases ... Oracle now officially has it.
>>> --
>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>> University of Washington
>>> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>> www.psoug.org

>>
>> Well, I already looked it up on PSOUG and still I think it has nothing to
>> do with syntax highlighting, or the description is not correct, but maybe
>> I'm missing something somewhere.. I think colored_Sql should be something
>> like marked_sql. But I get the point... so was mine. I'll try this for my
>> next 11g demo (next week)
>> Tried CCVI yet ? ;-)
>>
>> Shakespeare.

>
> It has zero to do with highlighting. As I said my post was intended to
> be light-hearted.
>
> That said it is a really nice new 11g feature.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> University of Washington
> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
> www.psoug.org


Highlighthearted......

Shakespeare


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