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Old 05-05-2008, 05:51 AM
hpuxrac
 
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Default Welcome back HJR

He's alive and posting and well putting out scripts and offering
downloads that don't require passwords.

I for one wouldn't count on this being permanent so if you find
something useful well you better download it and not count on getting
it again "just in case".

I was curious to see how potentially useful the doris script might be
but well that became un-available after the great "whatever it was"
blog tagging fiasco.

Betting that it is just a matter of time before a forum appears again
eh?



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Old 05-05-2008, 05:51 AM
hpuxrac
 
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Default Re: Welcome back HJR

On May 2, 8:37*pm, hpuxrac <johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> He's alive and posting and well putting out scripts and offering
> downloads that don't require passwords.
>
> I for one wouldn't count on this being permanent so if you find
> something useful well you better download it and not count on getting
> it again "just in case".
>
> I was curious to see how potentially useful the doris script might be
> but well that became un-available after the great "whatever it was"
> blog tagging fiasco.
>
> Betting that it is just a matter of time before a forum appears again
> eh?


Sorry guess I should have noted the url http://dizwell.com
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:20 PM
hjr.pythian@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: Welcome back HJR

On May 3, 10:38 am, hpuxrac <johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On May 2, 8:37 pm, hpuxrac <johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > He's alive and posting and well putting out scripts and offering
> > downloads that don't require passwords.

>
> > I for one wouldn't count on this being permanent so if you find
> > something useful well you better download it and not count on getting
> > it again "just in case".

>
> > I was curious to see how potentially useful the doris script might be
> > but well that became un-available after the great "whatever it was"
> > blog tagging fiasco.

>
> > Betting that it is just a matter of time before a forum appears again
> > eh?

>
> Sorry guess I should have noted the urlhttp://dizwell.com


I don't quite understand why you would post such tripe unless you
specifically WANTED me to remove what little material exists on the
site.

Is that what you are after?

It wouldn't surprise me.

For the record (and the umpteenth time): whatever technical 'articles'
appear these days do so because I'm writing to remind myself about
this or that technical tidbit I've actually had to use lately. The
doris script (singular, not plural. There's just one script available
for download these days, not several) appears because I'm fed up
supplying a password everytime I go to download it. And that's it.

There will, in short, be no forum. None of the old articles are coming
back (unless *I* need convenient access to them, which so far applies
to none of them). And no, I still don't participate in forums
answering technical queries. And I still don't answer emails
requesting technical advice. And I still won't respond to comments
about Oracle technical matters that may get made on the blog. And if
anyone who actively participated in that "blog tagging fiasco" bothers
to make a comment on my blog, it will get deleted immediately because
I still want nothing at all to do with people like that. (I agree with
you, incidentally, that the blog tagging "game" was a complete
failure, though not for the want of trying on the part of those doing
the tagging).

So, in even shorter form: there's still no change in my attitude or
stance towards 'the Oracle community'. So you lose your bet.

I'm amused that you should think any part of the Internet can be
'counted on to be permanent', by the way. Why you would think my site
any different from any other in that respect, I have no idea.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:02 PM
hpuxrac
 
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Default Re: Welcome back HJR

On May 5, 2:47*am, hjr.pyth...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

> So, in even shorter form: there's still no change in my attitude or
> stance towards 'the Oracle community'. So you lose your bet.


If you actually read what I posted I noted that if anyone finds any
relevant/useful material on your site they should probably save it
immediately.

What part are you not understanding exactly?

>
> I'm amused that you should think any part of the Internet can be
> 'counted on to be permanent', by the way. Why you would think my site
> any different from any other in that respect, I have no idea.


Perhaps you are not understanding why people often develop internet
sites and put content on them.

Take a look then at a site like Jeffrey Hunters http://www.idevelopment.info
... yikes he actually keeps stuff out there long term doesn't yank it
and/or switch ISP's as the mood fits his fancy.

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Old 05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
fitzjarrell@cox.net
 
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Default Re: Welcome back HJR

Comments embedded.
On May 9, 6:41*pm, hpuxrac <johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On May 5, 2:47*am, hjr.pyth...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> snip
>
> > So, in even shorter form: there's still no change in my attitude or
> > stance towards 'the Oracle community'. So you lose your bet.

>
> If you actually read what I posted I noted that if anyone finds any
> relevant/useful material on your site they should probably save it
> immediately.
>


I'm certain HJR DID read what you posted, hence the glorious response
you received.

> What part are you not understanding exactly?
>


He's understood it perfectly, from what I read.

>
>
> > I'm amused that you should think any part of the Internet can be
> > 'counted on to be permanent', by the way. Why you would think my site
> > any different from any other in that respect, I have no idea.

>
> Perhaps you are not understanding why people often develop internet
> sites and put content on them.
>


And lose them due to any number of reasons. Nothing on the Internet
is permanent; why you would think otherwise is a mystery to me. And
to HJR, which he's already noted.

> Take a look then at a site like Jeffrey Huntershttp://www.idevelopment.info
> ... yikes he actually keeps stuff out there long term doesn't yank it
> and/or switch ISP's as the mood fits his fancy.


Of course he doesn't, but you may find many of his scripts for Oracle
won't work on any of the 'newer' releases, like 9i and later
versions...and he's been in the thick of a situation where he posted
copyrighted content from HJR on his website without attribution:

http://groups.google.com/group/linux...hunter&lnk=ol&

I'd be thinking twice about using old Jeffery as an example.


David Fitzjarrell
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
joel garry
 
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Default Re: Welcome back HJR

On May 12, 7:07*am, "fitzjarr...@cox.net" <orat...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> I'd be thinking twice about using old Jeffery as an example.
>
> David Fitzjarrell


Irony! Using google group's archival of usenet to show... aw what the
heck, this subject deserves an entry in pseudodictionary.
http://www.pseudodictionary.com/VPUN

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://blag.xkcd.com/2006/12/11/the-...-the-internet/
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
hjr.pythian@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: Welcome back HJR

On May 10, 9:41 am, hpuxrac <johnbhur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On May 5, 2:47 am, hjr.pyth...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> snip
>
> > So, in even shorter form: there's still no change in my attitude or
> > stance towards 'the Oracle community'. So you lose your bet.

>
> If you actually read what I posted I noted that if anyone finds any
> relevant/useful material on your site they should probably save it
> immediately.
>
> What part are you not understanding exactly?


Er, that must be the part where you wrote, "Betting that it is just a
matter of time before a forum appears again".

I'm saying that you lose your bet. Which part of your own post are you
having difficulty understanding, exactly?

> > I'm amused that you should think any part of the Internet can be
> > 'counted on to be permanent', by the way. Why you would think my site
> > any different from any other in that respect, I have no idea.

>
> Perhaps you are not understanding why people often develop internet
> sites and put content on them.


You seem especially prone to asserting that others cannot understand
things!

Fact is, I've been developing internet sites and putting content on
them for just about 7 years now, so I think I understand the issues
and motivations involved. But bucketloads of motivation and
understanding still don't make ANY website "permanent". Mine is no
different in that regard, which was the point being made originally.

> Take a look then at a site like Jeffrey Huntershttp://www.idevelopment.info
> ... yikes he actually keeps stuff out there long term doesn't yank it
> and/or switch ISP's as the mood fits his fancy.


I've never actually changed ISPs merely as the mood has taken me. I
was hosted by someone in Brisbane for a year until the monthly
bandwidth allowance kept running out; I switched to Lunarpages without
interruption for over 2 years; when the site started consuming too
much CPU, I was eventually hosted by Pythian for a year. I switched
from them because I was finding 10Kb/sec download speeds too slow for
the new range of screencapture videos I was beginning to produce.

I make that three major changes of ISP in four years by way of
response to changing bandwidth, CPU and content needs. Not exactly
the, 'Oh, it's Tuesday... time for a new ISP' that I think you're
painting it as.

But I realise you're not one to let the facts get in the way of a good
bit of mud-slinging.

Meanwhile, Jeffrey Hunter is at liberty to yank or not yank his own
work as he sees fit. It's a freedom that I think you'll find extends
to everyone else, too. Including me. Which is why I've exercised it in
response to the actions of others.
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