On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:53:57 +0200, Matthias Hoys interested us by
writing:

>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frustrated.
>>>>
>>> any more so than a database developer in the java world?
>>
>> Java developers don't get frustrated. After all, anyone who has 3279
>> classes and interfaces to learn (based on j2SE 1.5 API doc) to become
>> proficient in the basics doesn't have time to be frustrated. Or time to
>> read the doc and find out how to do things. <g>
>>
>> --
>
> Couldn't the same be said of Oracle DBA's ? :-)

Yes, you are right ... many Oracle DBAs get frustrated with Java and .Net
database developers. <g>

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Bingo!

"HansF" <News.Hans@telus.net> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.10.02.15.42.841904@telus.net...
> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:53:57 +0200, Matthias Hoys interested us by
> writing:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Frustrated.
>>>>>
>>>> any more so than a database developer in the java world?
>>>
>>> Java developers don't get frustrated. After all, anyone who has 3279
>>> classes and interfaces to learn (based on j2SE 1.5 API doc) to become
>>> proficient in the basics doesn't have time to be frustrated. Or time to
>>> read the doc and find out how to do things. <g>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Couldn't the same be said of Oracle DBA's ? :-)
>
> Yes, you are right ... many Oracle DBAs get frustrated with Java and .Net
> database developers. <g>
>
> --

I'm more referring to the "let's do it quick and dirty first and read the
docs afterwards" kind of approach, a methodology highly supported by IT and
other managers :-)

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:26:40 +0200, Matthias Hoys interested us by
writing:

>
> I'm more referring to the "let's do it quick and dirty first and read the
> docs afterwards" kind of approach, a methodology highly supported by IT and
> other managers :-)

Yes, I know.

The GAAP (Generally Accepted Acconting Practice) related to clear and
distinct separation of 'Capital Expense' vs 'Operation Expense', thus
permitting a project to be defined at a minimum cost and released with the
idea that it'll be fixed by operations.

.... without permitting operations any ability to reference the stupidities
at the initial capital project layer where the costs were created.

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