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Hi folks,

When can we get the db2iprune command that is very usefull on Windows to run
also on Linux and Unix ?

The fixpacks are getting bigger and bigger and a command to remove languages
or components we don't need would be the most welcome. So that it fits on a
CD ... For example, on linux, keeping only french and english - manually
(very painful and error not free) could reduce the size from 710 Mb to 350
Mb.

Best regards,

Jean-Marc

Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> When can we get the db2iprune command that is very usefull on Windows to
> run also on Linux and Unix ?

The db2iprune command on Linux and Unix is shipped with the OS: it's
called "rm". On Sun and HP, you need the "-rf" parameter, but not on
AIX or Linux.

> The fixpacks are getting bigger and bigger and a command to remove
> languages or components we don't need would be the most welcome. So that
> it fits on a CD ... For example, on linux, keeping only french and english
> - manually (very painful and error not free) could reduce the size from
> 710 Mb to 350 Mb.

Simply remove the filesets from the image that you're not interested
in. As long as they aren't actually required, this works just fine.

Windows' db2iprune utility was created out of an inability to provide
such a simple interface, so one was created.

DB2 for Unix and Linux users have been doing this for years. You just
need to make sure you don't delete anything you need. Which is not
significantly different from db2iprune and deleting anything you need
there.

So, as an example, if you simply want to keep French and English, but
remove all the other languages:

perl -e 'for my $pkg (@ARGV) { unlink $pkg unless $pkg =~ /en|fr/i }'
IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm

(put all that on one line)

This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove all
German and Polish support, just run:

rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm

I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix user)
than db2iprune (for a windows user).

"Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
> Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > When can we get the db2iprune command that is very usefull on Windows to
> > run also on Linux and Unix ?
>
> The db2iprune command on Linux and Unix is shipped with the OS: it's
> called "rm". On Sun and HP, you need the "-rf" parameter, but not on
> AIX or Linux.
>
> > The fixpacks are getting bigger and bigger and a command to remove
> > languages or components we don't need would be the most welcome. So that
> > it fits on a CD ... For example, on linux, keeping only french and
english
> > - manually (very painful and error not free) could reduce the size from
> > 710 Mb to 350 Mb.
>
> Simply remove the filesets from the image that you're not interested
> in. As long as they aren't actually required, this works just fine.
>
> Windows' db2iprune utility was created out of an inability to provide
> such a simple interface, so one was created.
>
> DB2 for Unix and Linux users have been doing this for years. You just
> need to make sure you don't delete anything you need. Which is not
> significantly different from db2iprune and deleting anything you need
> there.
>
> So, as an example, if you simply want to keep French and English, but
> remove all the other languages:
>
> perl -e 'for my $pkg (@ARGV) { unlink $pkg unless $pkg =~ /en|fr/i }'
> IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm
>
> (put all that on one line)
>
> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove all
> German and Polish support, just run:
>
> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
>
> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix user)
> than db2iprune (for a windows user).

Hi Darin,

Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune is that
you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them remove. Of
course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that you
cannot guess.

To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to analyse
first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or whatever can be
used in a nutshell. For the example in the command you gave to remove Cerman
and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list is not complete in the
command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what about IBM_db2de* ? Is it so
simple that anyone knows to remove chinese support, you should remove *cn*,
*Cn*, *CN* ?

Best regards,

Jean-Marc

Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:

> "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
>
>> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
>> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove all
>> German and Polish support, just run:
>>
>> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
>>
>> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix user)
>> than db2iprune (for a windows user).
>
> Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune is that
> you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them remove. Of
> course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that you
> cannot guess.

:-) Not all the CAB files are directly visible in the list of
components, I think. They're inferred (e.g., if A and B require C, and
C is not visible, and you select to remove both A and B, I think C gets
removed automatically). That's just to make things just a bit more
fun.

> To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to
> analyse first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or

You can get more info about each RPM or fileset using the OS install
commands. For example, on Linux:

$ rpm -qip IBM_db2mscn81-8.1.0-64.i386.rpm

This will tell you more information about the RPM, if you're looking at
v8.2's CDs. (Adjust for the actual filenames in your fixpak)

If you want more info on something that's installed, just remove the
"p" in "-qip" and remove everything after and including the first "-":

$ rpm -qi IBM_db2mscn81

AIX has similar queries using lslpp - see the man pages for lslpp, rpm,
pkginfo, or swlist, depending on your unix/linux platform.

> whatever can be used in a nutshell. For the example in the command you
> gave to remove Cerman and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list is
> not complete in the command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what about
> IBM_db2de* ? Is it so simple that anyone knows to remove chinese support,
> you should remove *cn*, *Cn*, *CN* ?

Ah, you point out what I missed. The "{ms,jh,ch}" part should actually
be "{ms,je,ch,de}" - de is for the Eclipse-based Documentation, new in
v8.2, which is why I keep forgetting about it. This de has nothing to
do with German, although there is an IBM_db2dede81 RPM for German
documentation.

Note that Chinese support comes in both ch and tw styles - for
simplified and traditional Chinese, respectively.

The simplest way to prune your fixpak is to look at what you actually
have installed. Run:

rpm -qa | grep IBM_db2.*81 | sed 's/-.*//' > /nfs/$hostname.rpmlist

on each machine, where /nfs is a shared (writable) NFS partition, and
$hostname is the local hostname (you can use `hostname` instead). You
may need to put in a domain name if the hostname itself isn't unique
(e.g., if your company has *.canada.nowhere.com and *.usa.nowhere.com,
thus you could have a hostname "nobody" both in Canada and the US:
nobody.canada.nowhere.com and nobody.usa.nowhere.com).

Once you've got this master list, we want to create a real master list.
This step is somewhat optional, but you may find the results
interesting nonetheless, and can speed up later steps. You can do this
like this:

cat /nfs/*.rpmlist | sort | uniq > /tmp/complete.rpmlist

This may take a bit, depending on how many machines you're doing this
for. Note also we're creating the final list locally, not that it
matters too much.

Once you're here, you have a list of all the RPMs you care to keep.
You don't need to know which one is which, what individual RPMs do, or
anything. You just need to remove anything from the fixpak that isn't
in this list - it won't be used later if it's not here.

Note that once in a while, the Linux fixpaks have added extra RPMs to a
system that didn't already have them if they were now required. This
happened once in v7 for all Linux systems, and once in v8 for Linux/PPC
and once in v8 for Linux/390. It's not likely to happen again.

(I will likely need to update these instructions in v9.)

Jeaqn-Marc, I search for the db2iprune command on my DB2 PDE B.82 Fix#7a and
it tells me it can't find this.
Is this a Windows command? and where does it "rest".
Thanks for the help, Pierre.

--
Pierre Saint-Jacques
SES Consultants Inc.
514-737-4515
"Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
message de news:gw9Zd.670249$Xk.353112@pd7tw3no...
> Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:
>
> > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> > message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
> >
> >> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
> >> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove all
> >> German and Polish support, just run:
> >>
> >> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
> >>
> >> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix user)
> >> than db2iprune (for a windows user).
> >
> > Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune is
that
> > you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them remove. Of
> > course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that you
> > cannot guess.
>
> :-) Not all the CAB files are directly visible in the list of
> components, I think. They're inferred (e.g., if A and B require C, and
> C is not visible, and you select to remove both A and B, I think C gets
> removed automatically). That's just to make things just a bit more
> fun.
>
> > To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to
> > analyse first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or
>
> You can get more info about each RPM or fileset using the OS install
> commands. For example, on Linux:
>
> $ rpm -qip IBM_db2mscn81-8.1.0-64.i386.rpm
>
> This will tell you more information about the RPM, if you're looking at
> v8.2's CDs. (Adjust for the actual filenames in your fixpak)
>
> If you want more info on something that's installed, just remove the
> "p" in "-qip" and remove everything after and including the first "-":
>
> $ rpm -qi IBM_db2mscn81
>
> AIX has similar queries using lslpp - see the man pages for lslpp, rpm,
> pkginfo, or swlist, depending on your unix/linux platform.
>
> > whatever can be used in a nutshell. For the example in the command you
> > gave to remove Cerman and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list is
> > not complete in the command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what about
> > IBM_db2de* ? Is it so simple that anyone knows to remove chinese
support,
> > you should remove *cn*, *Cn*, *CN* ?
>
> Ah, you point out what I missed. The "{ms,jh,ch}" part should actually
> be "{ms,je,ch,de}" - de is for the Eclipse-based Documentation, new in
> v8.2, which is why I keep forgetting about it. This de has nothing to
> do with German, although there is an IBM_db2dede81 RPM for German
> documentation.
>
> Note that Chinese support comes in both ch and tw styles - for
> simplified and traditional Chinese, respectively.
>
> The simplest way to prune your fixpak is to look at what you actually
> have installed. Run:
>
> rpm -qa | grep IBM_db2.*81 | sed 's/-.*//' > /nfs/$hostname.rpmlist
>
> on each machine, where /nfs is a shared (writable) NFS partition, and
> $hostname is the local hostname (you can use `hostname` instead). You
> may need to put in a domain name if the hostname itself isn't unique
> (e.g., if your company has *.canada.nowhere.com and *.usa.nowhere.com,
> thus you could have a hostname "nobody" both in Canada and the US:
> nobody.canada.nowhere.com and nobody.usa.nowhere.com).
>
> Once you've got this master list, we want to create a real master list.
> This step is somewhat optional, but you may find the results
> interesting nonetheless, and can speed up later steps. You can do this
> like this:
>
> cat /nfs/*.rpmlist | sort | uniq > /tmp/complete.rpmlist
>
> This may take a bit, depending on how many machines you're doing this
> for. Note also we're creating the final list locally, not that it
> matters too much.
>
> Once you're here, you have a list of all the RPMs you care to keep.
> You don't need to know which one is which, what individual RPMs do, or
> anything. You just need to remove anything from the fixpak that isn't
> in this list - it won't be used later if it's not here.
>
> Note that once in a while, the Linux fixpaks have added extra RPMs to a
> system that didn't already have them if they were now required. This
> happened once in v7 for all Linux systems, and once in v8 for Linux/PPC
> and once in v8 for Linux/390. It's not likely to happen again.
>
> (I will likely need to update these instructions in v9.)
>

Pierre, it's located in the DB2 code only,
ESE\DB2\WINDOWS\UTILITIES\DB2IPRUNE.

Darin, thanks for this further information.

Regards,

Jean-Marc

"Pierre Saint-Jacques" <sescons@invalid.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:lmtZd.55392$WM1.1220622@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> Jeaqn-Marc, I search for the db2iprune command on my DB2 PDE B.82 Fix#7a
and
> it tells me it can't find this.
> Is this a Windows command? and where does it "rest".
> Thanks for the help, Pierre.
>
> --
> Pierre Saint-Jacques
> SES Consultants Inc.
> 514-737-4515
> "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> message de news:gw9Zd.670249$Xk.353112@pd7tw3no...
> > Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:
> >
> > > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> > > message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
> > >
> > >> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
> > >> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove all
> > >> German and Polish support, just run:
> > >>
> > >> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix
user)
> > >> than db2iprune (for a windows user).
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune is
> that
> > > you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them remove.
Of
> > > course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that
you
> > > cannot guess.
> >
> > :-) Not all the CAB files are directly visible in the list of
> > components, I think. They're inferred (e.g., if A and B require C, and
> > C is not visible, and you select to remove both A and B, I think C gets
> > removed automatically). That's just to make things just a bit more
> > fun.
> >
> > > To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to
> > > analyse first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or
> >
> > You can get more info about each RPM or fileset using the OS install
> > commands. For example, on Linux:
> >
> > $ rpm -qip IBM_db2mscn81-8.1.0-64.i386.rpm
> >
> > This will tell you more information about the RPM, if you're looking at
> > v8.2's CDs. (Adjust for the actual filenames in your fixpak)
> >
> > If you want more info on something that's installed, just remove the
> > "p" in "-qip" and remove everything after and including the first "-":
> >
> > $ rpm -qi IBM_db2mscn81
> >
> > AIX has similar queries using lslpp - see the man pages for lslpp, rpm,
> > pkginfo, or swlist, depending on your unix/linux platform.
> >
> > > whatever can be used in a nutshell. For the example in the command you
> > > gave to remove Cerman and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list
is
> > > not complete in the command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what
about
> > > IBM_db2de* ? Is it so simple that anyone knows to remove chinese
> support,
> > > you should remove *cn*, *Cn*, *CN* ?
> >
> > Ah, you point out what I missed. The "{ms,jh,ch}" part should actually
> > be "{ms,je,ch,de}" - de is for the Eclipse-based Documentation, new in
> > v8.2, which is why I keep forgetting about it. This de has nothing to
> > do with German, although there is an IBM_db2dede81 RPM for German
> > documentation.
> >
> > Note that Chinese support comes in both ch and tw styles - for
> > simplified and traditional Chinese, respectively.
> >
> > The simplest way to prune your fixpak is to look at what you actually
> > have installed. Run:
> >
> > rpm -qa | grep IBM_db2.*81 | sed 's/-.*//' > /nfs/$hostname.rpmlist
> >
> > on each machine, where /nfs is a shared (writable) NFS partition, and
> > $hostname is the local hostname (you can use `hostname` instead). You
> > may need to put in a domain name if the hostname itself isn't unique
> > (e.g., if your company has *.canada.nowhere.com and *.usa.nowhere.com,
> > thus you could have a hostname "nobody" both in Canada and the US:
> > nobody.canada.nowhere.com and nobody.usa.nowhere.com).
> >
> > Once you've got this master list, we want to create a real master list.
> > This step is somewhat optional, but you may find the results
> > interesting nonetheless, and can speed up later steps. You can do this
> > like this:
> >
> > cat /nfs/*.rpmlist | sort | uniq > /tmp/complete.rpmlist
> >
> > This may take a bit, depending on how many machines you're doing this
> > for. Note also we're creating the final list locally, not that it
> > matters too much.
> >
> > Once you're here, you have a list of all the RPMs you care to keep.
> > You don't need to know which one is which, what individual RPMs do, or
> > anything. You just need to remove anything from the fixpak that isn't
> > in this list - it won't be used later if it's not here.
> >
> > Note that once in a while, the Linux fixpaks have added extra RPMs to a
> > system that didn't already have them if they were now required. This
> > happened once in v7 for all Linux systems, and once in v8 for Linux/PPC
> > and once in v8 for Linux/390. It's not likely to happen again.
> >
> > (I will likely need to update these instructions in v9.)
> >
>

Thanks. Its location makes sense when one stops and thinks about it!!
I guess one learns every day
Merci, Pierre.
--
Pierre Saint-Jacques
SES Consultants Inc.
514-737-4515
"Jean-Marc Blaise" <nobody@nowhere.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:423686e6$0$19357$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Pierre, it's located in the DB2 code only,
> ESE\DB2\WINDOWS\UTILITIES\DB2IPRUNE.
>
> Darin, thanks for this further information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Marc
>
> "Pierre Saint-Jacques" <sescons@invalid.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news:lmtZd.55392$WM1.1220622@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> > Jeaqn-Marc, I search for the db2iprune command on my DB2 PDE B.82 Fix#7a
> and
> > it tells me it can't find this.
> > Is this a Windows command? and where does it "rest".
> > Thanks for the help, Pierre.
> >
> > --
> > Pierre Saint-Jacques
> > SES Consultants Inc.
> > 514-737-4515
> > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> > message de news:gw9Zd.670249$Xk.353112@pd7tw3no...
> > > Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans
le
> > > > message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
> > > >
> > > >> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
> > > >> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove
all
> > > >> German and Polish support, just run:
> > > >>
> > > >> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix
> user)
> > > >> than db2iprune (for a windows user).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune
is
> > that
> > > > you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them
remove.
> Of
> > > > course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that
> you
> > > > cannot guess.
> > >
> > > :-) Not all the CAB files are directly visible in the list of
> > > components, I think. They're inferred (e.g., if A and B require C,
and
> > > C is not visible, and you select to remove both A and B, I think C
gets
> > > removed automatically). That's just to make things just a bit more
> > > fun.
> > >
> > > > To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to
> > > > analyse first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or
> > >
> > > You can get more info about each RPM or fileset using the OS install
> > > commands. For example, on Linux:
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qip IBM_db2mscn81-8.1.0-64.i386.rpm
> > >
> > > This will tell you more information about the RPM, if you're looking
at
> > > v8.2's CDs. (Adjust for the actual filenames in your fixpak)
> > >
> > > If you want more info on something that's installed, just remove the
> > > "p" in "-qip" and remove everything after and including the first "-":
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qi IBM_db2mscn81
> > >
> > > AIX has similar queries using lslpp - see the man pages for lslpp,
rpm,
> > > pkginfo, or swlist, depending on your unix/linux platform.
> > >
> > > > whatever can be used in a nutshell. For the example in the command
you
> > > > gave to remove Cerman and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list
> is
> > > > not complete in the command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what
> about
> > > > IBM_db2de* ? Is it so simple that anyone knows to remove chinese
> > support,
> > > > you should remove *cn*, *Cn*, *CN* ?
> > >
> > > Ah, you point out what I missed. The "{ms,jh,ch}" part should
actually
> > > be "{ms,je,ch,de}" - de is for the Eclipse-based Documentation, new in
> > > v8.2, which is why I keep forgetting about it. This de has nothing to
> > > do with German, although there is an IBM_db2dede81 RPM for German
> > > documentation.
> > >
> > > Note that Chinese support comes in both ch and tw styles - for
> > > simplified and traditional Chinese, respectively.
> > >
> > > The simplest way to prune your fixpak is to look at what you actually
> > > have installed. Run:
> > >
> > > rpm -qa | grep IBM_db2.*81 | sed 's/-.*//' > /nfs/$hostname.rpmlist
> > >
> > > on each machine, where /nfs is a shared (writable) NFS partition, and
> > > $hostname is the local hostname (you can use `hostname` instead). You
> > > may need to put in a domain name if the hostname itself isn't unique
> > > (e.g., if your company has *.canada.nowhere.com and *.usa.nowhere.com,
> > > thus you could have a hostname "nobody" both in Canada and the US:
> > > nobody.canada.nowhere.com and nobody.usa.nowhere.com).
> > >
> > > Once you've got this master list, we want to create a real master
list.
> > > This step is somewhat optional, but you may find the results
> > > interesting nonetheless, and can speed up later steps. You can do
this
> > > like this:
> > >
> > > cat /nfs/*.rpmlist | sort | uniq > /tmp/complete.rpmlist
> > >
> > > This may take a bit, depending on how many machines you're doing this
> > > for. Note also we're creating the final list locally, not that it
> > > matters too much.
> > >
> > > Once you're here, you have a list of all the RPMs you care to keep.
> > > You don't need to know which one is which, what individual RPMs do, or
> > > anything. You just need to remove anything from the fixpak that isn't
> > > in this list - it won't be used later if it's not here.
> > >
> > > Note that once in a while, the Linux fixpaks have added extra RPMs to
a
> > > system that didn't already have them if they were now required. This
> > > happened once in v7 for all Linux systems, and once in v8 for
Linux/PPC
> > > and once in v8 for Linux/390. It's not likely to happen again.
> > >
> > > (I will likely need to update these instructions in v9.)
> > >
> >
>
>

Thanks. Its location makes sense when one stops and thinks about it!!
I guess one learns every day
Merci, Pierre.
--
Pierre Saint-Jacques
SES Consultants Inc.
514-737-4515
"Jean-Marc Blaise" <nobody@nowhere.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:423686e6$0$19357$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Pierre, it's located in the DB2 code only,
> ESE\DB2\WINDOWS\UTILITIES\DB2IPRUNE.
>
> Darin, thanks for this further information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Marc
>
> "Pierre Saint-Jacques" <sescons@invalid.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news:lmtZd.55392$WM1.1220622@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> > Jeaqn-Marc, I search for the db2iprune command on my DB2 PDE B.82 Fix#7a
> and
> > it tells me it can't find this.
> > Is this a Windows command? and where does it "rest".
> > Thanks for the help, Pierre.
> >
> > --
> > Pierre Saint-Jacques
> > SES Consultants Inc.
> > 514-737-4515
> > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> > message de news:gw9Zd.670249$Xk.353112@pd7tw3no...
> > > Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans
le
> > > > message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
> > > >
> > > >> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
> > > >> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove
all
> > > >> German and Polish support, just run:
> > > >>
> > > >> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix
> user)
> > > >> than db2iprune (for a windows user).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune
is
> > that
> > > > you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them
remove.
> Of
> > > > course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that
> you
> > > > cannot guess.
> > >
> > > :-) Not all the CAB files are directly visible in the list of
> > > components, I think. They're inferred (e.g., if A and B require C,
and
> > > C is not visible, and you select to remove both A and B, I think C
gets
> > > removed automatically). That's just to make things just a bit more
> > > fun.
> > >
> > > > To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to
> > > > analyse first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or
> > >
> > > You can get more info about each RPM or fileset using the OS install
> > > commands. For example, on Linux:
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qip IBM_db2mscn81-8.1.0-64.i386.rpm
> > >
> > > This will tell you more information about the RPM, if you're looking
at
> > > v8.2's CDs. (Adjust for the actual filenames in your fixpak)
> > >
> > > If you want more info on something that's installed, just remove the
> > > "p" in "-qip" and remove everything after and including the first "-":
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qi IBM_db2mscn81
> > >
> > > AIX has similar queries using lslpp - see the man pages for lslpp,
rpm,
> > > pkginfo, or swlist, depending on your unix/linux platform.
> > >
> > > > whatever can be used in a nutshell. For the example in the command
you
> > > > gave to remove Cerman and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list
> is
> > > > not complete in the command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what
> about
> > > > IBM_db2de* ? Is it so simple that anyone knows to remove chinese
> > support,
> > > > you should remove *cn*, *Cn*, *CN* ?
> > >
> > > Ah, you point out what I missed. The "{ms,jh,ch}" part should
actually
> > > be "{ms,je,ch,de}" - de is for the Eclipse-based Documentation, new in
> > > v8.2, which is why I keep forgetting about it. This de has nothing to
> > > do with German, although there is an IBM_db2dede81 RPM for German
> > > documentation.
> > >
> > > Note that Chinese support comes in both ch and tw styles - for
> > > simplified and traditional Chinese, respectively.
> > >
> > > The simplest way to prune your fixpak is to look at what you actually
> > > have installed. Run:
> > >
> > > rpm -qa | grep IBM_db2.*81 | sed 's/-.*//' > /nfs/$hostname.rpmlist
> > >
> > > on each machine, where /nfs is a shared (writable) NFS partition, and
> > > $hostname is the local hostname (you can use `hostname` instead). You
> > > may need to put in a domain name if the hostname itself isn't unique
> > > (e.g., if your company has *.canada.nowhere.com and *.usa.nowhere.com,
> > > thus you could have a hostname "nobody" both in Canada and the US:
> > > nobody.canada.nowhere.com and nobody.usa.nowhere.com).
> > >
> > > Once you've got this master list, we want to create a real master
list.
> > > This step is somewhat optional, but you may find the results
> > > interesting nonetheless, and can speed up later steps. You can do
this
> > > like this:
> > >
> > > cat /nfs/*.rpmlist | sort | uniq > /tmp/complete.rpmlist
> > >
> > > This may take a bit, depending on how many machines you're doing this
> > > for. Note also we're creating the final list locally, not that it
> > > matters too much.
> > >
> > > Once you're here, you have a list of all the RPMs you care to keep.
> > > You don't need to know which one is which, what individual RPMs do, or
> > > anything. You just need to remove anything from the fixpak that isn't
> > > in this list - it won't be used later if it's not here.
> > >
> > > Note that once in a while, the Linux fixpaks have added extra RPMs to
a
> > > system that didn't already have them if they were now required. This
> > > happened once in v7 for all Linux systems, and once in v8 for
Linux/PPC
> > > and once in v8 for Linux/390. It's not likely to happen again.
> > >
> > > (I will likely need to update these instructions in v9.)
> > >
> >
>
>

Thanks. Its location makes sense when one stops and thinks about it!!
I guess one learns every day
Merci, Pierre.
--
Pierre Saint-Jacques
SES Consultants Inc.
514-737-4515
"Jean-Marc Blaise" <nobody@nowhere.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:423686e6$0$19357$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Pierre, it's located in the DB2 code only,
> ESE\DB2\WINDOWS\UTILITIES\DB2IPRUNE.
>
> Darin, thanks for this further information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Marc
>
> "Pierre Saint-Jacques" <sescons@invalid.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news:lmtZd.55392$WM1.1220622@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> > Jeaqn-Marc, I search for the db2iprune command on my DB2 PDE B.82 Fix#7a
> and
> > it tells me it can't find this.
> > Is this a Windows command? and where does it "rest".
> > Thanks for the help, Pierre.
> >
> > --
> > Pierre Saint-Jacques
> > SES Consultants Inc.
> > 514-737-4515
> > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> > message de news:gw9Zd.670249$Xk.353112@pd7tw3no...
> > > Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans
le
> > > > message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
> > > >
> > > >> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
> > > >> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove
all
> > > >> German and Polish support, just run:
> > > >>
> > > >> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix
> user)
> > > >> than db2iprune (for a windows user).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune
is
> > that
> > > > you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them
remove.
> Of
> > > > course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that
> you
> > > > cannot guess.
> > >
> > > :-) Not all the CAB files are directly visible in the list of
> > > components, I think. They're inferred (e.g., if A and B require C,
and
> > > C is not visible, and you select to remove both A and B, I think C
gets
> > > removed automatically). That's just to make things just a bit more
> > > fun.
> > >
> > > > To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to
> > > > analyse first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or
> > >
> > > You can get more info about each RPM or fileset using the OS install
> > > commands. For example, on Linux:
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qip IBM_db2mscn81-8.1.0-64.i386.rpm
> > >
> > > This will tell you more information about the RPM, if you're looking
at
> > > v8.2's CDs. (Adjust for the actual filenames in your fixpak)
> > >
> > > If you want more info on something that's installed, just remove the
> > > "p" in "-qip" and remove everything after and including the first "-":
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qi IBM_db2mscn81
> > >
> > > AIX has similar queries using lslpp - see the man pages for lslpp,
rpm,
> > > pkginfo, or swlist, depending on your unix/linux platform.
> > >
> > > > whatever can be used in a nutshell. For the example in the command
you
> > > > gave to remove Cerman and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list
> is
> > > > not complete in the command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what
> about
> > > > IBM_db2de* ? Is it so simple that anyone knows to remove chinese
> > support,
> > > > you should remove *cn*, *Cn*, *CN* ?
> > >
> > > Ah, you point out what I missed. The "{ms,jh,ch}" part should
actually
> > > be "{ms,je,ch,de}" - de is for the Eclipse-based Documentation, new in
> > > v8.2, which is why I keep forgetting about it. This de has nothing to
> > > do with German, although there is an IBM_db2dede81 RPM for German
> > > documentation.
> > >
> > > Note that Chinese support comes in both ch and tw styles - for
> > > simplified and traditional Chinese, respectively.
> > >
> > > The simplest way to prune your fixpak is to look at what you actually
> > > have installed. Run:
> > >
> > > rpm -qa | grep IBM_db2.*81 | sed 's/-.*//' > /nfs/$hostname.rpmlist
> > >
> > > on each machine, where /nfs is a shared (writable) NFS partition, and
> > > $hostname is the local hostname (you can use `hostname` instead). You
> > > may need to put in a domain name if the hostname itself isn't unique
> > > (e.g., if your company has *.canada.nowhere.com and *.usa.nowhere.com,
> > > thus you could have a hostname "nobody" both in Canada and the US:
> > > nobody.canada.nowhere.com and nobody.usa.nowhere.com).
> > >
> > > Once you've got this master list, we want to create a real master
list.
> > > This step is somewhat optional, but you may find the results
> > > interesting nonetheless, and can speed up later steps. You can do
this
> > > like this:
> > >
> > > cat /nfs/*.rpmlist | sort | uniq > /tmp/complete.rpmlist
> > >
> > > This may take a bit, depending on how many machines you're doing this
> > > for. Note also we're creating the final list locally, not that it
> > > matters too much.
> > >
> > > Once you're here, you have a list of all the RPMs you care to keep.
> > > You don't need to know which one is which, what individual RPMs do, or
> > > anything. You just need to remove anything from the fixpak that isn't
> > > in this list - it won't be used later if it's not here.
> > >
> > > Note that once in a while, the Linux fixpaks have added extra RPMs to
a
> > > system that didn't already have them if they were now required. This
> > > happened once in v7 for all Linux systems, and once in v8 for
Linux/PPC
> > > and once in v8 for Linux/390. It's not likely to happen again.
> > >
> > > (I will likely need to update these instructions in v9.)
> > >
> >
>
>

Thanks. Its location makes sense when one stops and thinks about it!!
I guess one learns every day
Merci, Pierre.


--
Pierre Saint-Jacques
SES Consultants Inc.
514-737-4515
"Jean-Marc Blaise" <nobody@nowhere.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:423686e6$0$19357$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Pierre, it's located in the DB2 code only,
> ESE\DB2\WINDOWS\UTILITIES\DB2IPRUNE.
>
> Darin, thanks for this further information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Marc
>
> "Pierre Saint-Jacques" <sescons@invalid.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news:lmtZd.55392$WM1.1220622@wagner.videotron.net. ..
> > Jeaqn-Marc, I search for the db2iprune command on my DB2 PDE B.82 Fix#7a
> and
> > it tells me it can't find this.
> > Is this a Windows command? and where does it "rest".
> > Thanks for the help, Pierre.
> >
> > --
> > Pierre Saint-Jacques
> > SES Consultants Inc.
> > 514-737-4515
> > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans le
> > message de news:gw9Zd.670249$Xk.353112@pd7tw3no...
> > > Jean-Marc Blaise wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@naboo.to.org.no.spam.for.me> a écrit dans
le
> > > > message de news:LHQYd.660992$6l.35593@pd7tw2no...
> > > >
> > > >> This is complex solely because you gave a list of what you want to
> > > >> keep, rather than what you want to remove. If you want to remove
all
> > > >> German and Polish support, just run:
> > > >>
> > > >> rm IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}{de,pl}81*.rpm
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not sure that this really is any more complicated (for a unix
> user)
> > > >> than db2iprune (for a windows user).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your reply. The thing you don't mention about db2iprune
is
> > that
> > > > you work thru a list of components you uncomment to make them
remove.
> Of
> > > > course, on windows, the CAB files have such a complicated name that
> you
> > > > cannot guess.
> > >
> > > :-) Not all the CAB files are directly visible in the list of
> > > components, I think. They're inferred (e.g., if A and B require C,
and
> > > C is not visible, and you select to remove both A and B, I think C
gets
> > > removed automatically). That's just to make things just a bit more
> > > fun.
> > >
> > > > To remove on Unix or Linux for someone who doesn't know, you have to
> > > > analyse first all rpms or fileset and make a decision. Then, rm or
> > >
> > > You can get more info about each RPM or fileset using the OS install
> > > commands. For example, on Linux:
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qip IBM_db2mscn81-8.1.0-64.i386.rpm
> > >
> > > This will tell you more information about the RPM, if you're looking
at
> > > v8.2's CDs. (Adjust for the actual filenames in your fixpak)
> > >
> > > If you want more info on something that's installed, just remove the
> > > "p" in "-qip" and remove everything after and including the first "-":
> > >
> > > $ rpm -qi IBM_db2mscn81
> > >
> > > AIX has similar queries using lslpp - see the man pages for lslpp,
rpm,
> > > pkginfo, or swlist, depending on your unix/linux platform.
> > >
> > > > whatever can be used in a nutshell. For the example in the command
you
> > > > gave to remove Cerman and Polish support it seems to me the rpm list
> is
> > > > not complete in the command you gave: IBM_db2{ms,jh,ch}*.rpm, what
> about
> > > > IBM_db2de* ? Is it so simple that anyone knows to remove chinese
> > support,
> > > > you should remove *cn*, *Cn*, *CN* ?
> > >
> > > Ah, you point out what I missed. The "{ms,jh,ch}" part should
actually
> > > be "{ms,je,ch,de}" - de is for the Eclipse-based Documentation, new in
> > > v8.2, which is why I keep forgetting about it. This de has nothing to
> > > do with German, although there is an IBM_db2dede81 RPM for German
> > > documentation.
> > >
> > > Note that Chinese support comes in both ch and tw styles - for
> > > simplified and traditional Chinese, respectively.
> > >
> > > The simplest way to prune your fixpak is to look at what you actually
> > > have installed. Run:
> > >
> > > rpm -qa | grep IBM_db2.*81 | sed 's/-.*//' > /nfs/$hostname.rpmlist
> > >
> > > on each machine, where /nfs is a shared (writable) NFS partition, and
> > > $hostname is the local hostname (you can use `hostname` instead). You
> > > may need to put in a domain name if the hostname itself isn't unique
> > > (e.g., if your company has *.canada.nowhere.com and *.usa.nowhere.com,
> > > thus you could have a hostname "nobody" both in Canada and the US:
> > > nobody.canada.nowhere.com and nobody.usa.nowhere.com).
> > >
> > > Once you've got this master list, we want to create a real master
list.
> > > This step is somewhat optional, but you may find the results
> > > interesting nonetheless, and can speed up later steps. You can do
this
> > > like this:
> > >
> > > cat /nfs/*.rpmlist | sort | uniq > /tmp/complete.rpmlist
> > >
> > > This may take a bit, depending on how many machines you're doing this
> > > for. Note also we're creating the final list locally, not that it
> > > matters too much.
> > >
> > > Once you're here, you have a list of all the RPMs you care to keep.
> > > You don't need to know which one is which, what individual RPMs do, or
> > > anything. You just need to remove anything from the fixpak that isn't
> > > in this list - it won't be used later if it's not here.
> > >
> > > Note that once in a while, the Linux fixpaks have added extra RPMs to
a
> > > system that didn't already have them if they were now required. This
> > > happened once in v7 for all Linux systems, and once in v8 for
Linux/PPC
> > > and once in v8 for Linux/390. It's not likely to happen again.
> > >
> > > (I will likely need to update these instructions in v9.)
> > >
> >
>
>