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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
moses
 
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Default is there a goto instruction in mysql?

hi guys, i am doin a project in HPC. i am just a beginner in
databases.so i just wanna know if there is any function in SQL which
lets me to jump to a particular record directly.say something like
'gotorecord' or somethin...
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
Erick T. Barkhuis
 
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Default Re: is there a goto instruction in mysql?

moses:

> hi guys, i am doin a project in HPC.


High Performance Computer, Handheld PC, or something else?


> i am just a beginner in databases.
> so i just wanna know if there is any function in SQL which
> lets me to jump to a particular record directly.say something like
> 'gotorecord' or somethin...


I'm afraid you're completely on the wrong track (or I am misunderstanding
your question). Databases are used to store, filter and retrieve data.

In a database, you don't "jump to a record". Of course, your
_application_ may retrieve a record from the database, and do whatever
you want it to do with that set of data.

Perhaps (I'm just guessing here) you want to process all 'records' from a
table, starting from a certain value upwards. As in: "return all sales in
recent years, starting from the year 2005".
If that's what you want, use the WHERE clause of the SELECT statement to
specify the range, and the ORDER BY clause to get the result in a proper
order. You application will then loop through the result.

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"Given a conflict, Murphy's law supercedes Newton's."

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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
Ana C. Dent
 
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moses <arkoshy@gmail.com> wrote in news:a3575cc5-e9ff-417b-8088-
13f6727db8b7@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> hi guys, i am doin a project in HPC. i am just a beginner in
> databases.so i just wanna know if there is any function in SQL which
> lets me to jump to a particular record directly.say something like
> 'gotorecord' or somethin...


A database table is like a basket of colored balls.
Which ball is ball #N??????????????
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
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On Mar 15, 2:22 am, moses <arko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi guys, i am doin a project in HPC. i am just a beginner in
> databases.so i just wanna know if there is any function in SQL which
> lets me to jump to a particular record directly.say something like
> 'gotorecord' or somethin...


If the table has a primary key that's auto-incremented, you can:

select * from table
where column = value

Where, "table" is your table name, "column" is the name of the auto-
increment column, and "value" is the record number you're looking for.

That's as close to "gotorecord" as you're ever going to get.

But the very nature of your question indicates you don't grok the
RDBMS paradigm at all. Yes, I know you're a beginner, that's Ok, but
there are some fundamental concepts that you just NEED to GET. Maybe
if you explained a little what you're trying to do, at a higher
conceptual level, folks here might give you clues what directions you
should be looking in.
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
Erick T. Barkhuis
 
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Ana C. Dent:

> A database table is like a basket of colored balls.
> Which ball is ball #N??????????????


Have another look. It's that yellow ball at the bottom, with the big "N"
on its back. Right next to ball-Y.
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
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On Mar 15, 8:24 am, "Ana C. Dent" <anaced...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> moses <arko...@gmail.com> wrote in news:a3575cc5-e9ff-417b-8088-
> 13f6727db...@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > hi guys, i am doin a project in HPC. i am just a beginner in
> > databases.so i just wanna know if there is any function in SQL which
> > lets me to jump to a particular record directly.say something like
> > 'gotorecord' or somethin...

>
> A database table is like a basket of colored balls.
> Which ball is ball #N??????????????


That's a great analogy! :-)
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:47 PM
Willem Bogaerts
 
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> hi guys, i am doin a project in HPC. i am just a beginner in
> databases.so i just wanna know if there is any function in SQL which
> lets me to jump to a particular record directly.say something like
> 'gotorecord' or somethin...


As others already said, there is no fixed order in a database. Better
put: there is no _single_ fixed order. There are as many orders as you
like, and they are implemented with indexes.

Many tables have an autonumber column with a primary key. That is the
closest thing to a record position. But it is better than just a
position: it remains the same through the whole life of the table. So
positions will not be reused.

Now to the question: is there a GOTO?

Yes, there is. SELECT is by far the most used data retrieval command,
but there is another one, that is very MySQL specific: HANDLER.

The HANDLER command allows you do things the ISAM way: this table, that
index, number 7 please. Oh, and pass me the next one as well, will you?

Again, this command is rarely used (although I use it quite often, but
not as a GOTO). I would not recommend beginners to use HANDLER, as it
can give you dirty data. You should know what it does exactly and you
should know what you are doing.

If you describe what you want to select, we can help you with the
appropriate queries.

Best regards,
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Willem Bogaerts

Application smith
Kratz B.V.
http://www.kratz.nl/
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:47 PM
Erick T. Barkhuis
 
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Jerry Stuckle:

NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:39:26 -0500
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:39:18 -0500
From: Jerry Stuckle <...>

> How many rows are we talking about, anyway?


Jerry, would you please have a look at your system's time setting? If I'm
not mistaken, it appears as if you're one hour ahead of The Rest Of Us.
Thanks

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:47 PM
Jerry Stuckle
 
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moses wrote:
> On Mar 17, 6:22 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> I doubt that will make a search faster. The overhead of splitting the
>> request then joining the output would probably be much higher than
>> letting MySQL do it itself. Additionally, multiple nodes should not be
>> accessing the same physical table.
>>

> The overhead involved is not a problem as i am using a MPI program to
> take care of that.And since the queries run on each nodes is the
> same ,but on different records,there shouldn't be a problem of
> splitting and joining them together.
> But i would like to know more about what u said about why multiple
> nodes cant access the same table..is it really a constraint set by the
> DBMS?
>


I said they can't access the same *physical* table. It's not a good
idea, and can lead to corrupt data - just like it can when you have
multiple programs accessing any other file. So that means you need to
replicate your database across all nodes, which is more overhead.

And yes, you will have a lot more overhead than just communications
between nodes. Everything from parsing the SQL multiple times to
merging and sorting the results from multiple nodes. Not to mention the
network traffic between systems.

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JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:47 PM
moses
 
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On Mar 17, 6:39*pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> How many rows are we talking about, anyway?
>

Well our project is meant for huge databases.We are currently
targeting the student database in a university.So instead of a single
machine processing through tonnes of records,which is extrememly
slow,we were thinkin of making a cluster of computers to search this
database.The main database will be stored in a central server which is
accessiible to these nodes.
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