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Old 02-28-2008, 06:34 AM
sol beach
 
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Default MYSQL data replication

I have limited experience with MYSQL replication; which is why I am hoping
others with more experience can answer a question or two.
Let's say I have a MASTER MYSQL database.
Let's say there are 50 - 60 other systems where I'd like to have MYSQL
running on these "slave" systems.
These slave systems need to be kept in synch with the Master, but it does
NOT need to be anywhere near real time.
The data in the slaves could lag as much a an hour or two.
The amount of data in total in the MASTER is in the range of 100MB - 250MB
The rate of changes to the data is in the range 2000 - 5000 DML per 24 hour
day.
We control the application so we can/will include date/time each record is
created or modified.
You can assume that no records ever get physically deleted; only INSERT &
UPDATE (no DELETE).

What are some alternative ways to keep the slave systems "current"?

TIA & HAND!

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:34 AM
Jimmy Guerrero
 
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Default Re: MYSQL data replication

Hello,

Although you state that there is no requirement for near real time
synchronization, an alternative might be to look into DRBD. Which if you
are not familiar with, is block-level replication.

See: http://www.mysql.com/products/enterprise/drbd.html

Combining DRBD with Linux Heartbeat also gives you failover capabilities.

Mohd posted a blog on his experience yesterday.

See: http://blog.irwan.name/?p=118

Jimmy Guerrero
Sr Product Manager
MySQL, Inc
Houston, TX

sol beach wrote:
> I have limited experience with MYSQL replication; which is why I am hoping
> others with more experience can answer a question or two.
> Let's say I have a MASTER MYSQL database.
> Let's say there are 50 - 60 other systems where I'd like to have MYSQL
> running on these "slave" systems.
> These slave systems need to be kept in synch with the Master, but it does
> NOT need to be anywhere near real time.
> The data in the slaves could lag as much a an hour or two.
> The amount of data in total in the MASTER is in the range of 100MB - 250MB
> The rate of changes to the data is in the range 2000 - 5000 DML per 24 hour
> day.
> We control the application so we can/will include date/time each record is
> created or modified.
> You can assume that no records ever get physically deleted; only INSERT &
> UPDATE (no DELETE).
>
> What are some alternative ways to keep the slave systems "current"?
>
> TIA & HAND!
>

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:34 AM
Baron Schwartz
 
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Default Re: MYSQL data replication

Hi sol,

sol beach wrote:
> I have limited experience with MYSQL replication; which is why I am hoping
> others with more experience can answer a question or two.
> Let's say I have a MASTER MYSQL database.
> Let's say there are 50 - 60 other systems where I'd like to have MYSQL
> running on these "slave" systems.
> These slave systems need to be kept in synch with the Master, but it does
> NOT need to be anywhere near real time.
> The data in the slaves could lag as much a an hour or two.
> The amount of data in total in the MASTER is in the range of 100MB - 250MB
> The rate of changes to the data is in the range 2000 - 5000 DML per 24 hour
> day.
> We control the application so we can/will include date/time each record is
> created or modified.
> You can assume that no records ever get physically deleted; only INSERT &
> UPDATE (no DELETE).
>
> What are some alternative ways to keep the slave systems "current"?


The best, easiest, simplest way to do this is just to use MySQL's built-in replication.
Once you learn its (many) strengths and (relatively few) weaknesses, it works
extremely well.

If you want to avoid some of the gotchas, I have written about my experiences here:
http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2007/01/20...tion-reliable/

Hand-rolling replication is a bad idea in my opinion, so I don't have any alternative
methods to suggest. However, if you just need to sync some data efficiently, try MySQL
Table Sync (http://mysqltoolkit.sourceforge.net/).

Cheers
Baron
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:34 AM
Jimmy Guerrero
 
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Default Re: MYSQL data replication

Hello,

Hmmm, I just reread your post and noticed the requirement of 50-60
slaves hanging off a single master. DRBD would NOT be the right solution
here.

-- Jimmy

Jimmy Guerrero wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Although you state that there is no requirement for near real time
> synchronization, an alternative might be to look into DRBD. Which if you
> are not familiar with, is block-level replication.
>
> See: http://www.mysql.com/products/enterprise/drbd.html
>
> Combining DRBD with Linux Heartbeat also gives you failover capabilities.
>
> Mohd posted a blog on his experience yesterday.
>
> See: http://blog.irwan.name/?p=118
>
> Jimmy Guerrero
> Sr Product Manager
> MySQL, Inc
> Houston, TX
>
> sol beach wrote:
>> I have limited experience with MYSQL replication; which is why I am
>> hoping
>> others with more experience can answer a question or two.
>> Let's say I have a MASTER MYSQL database.
>> Let's say there are 50 - 60 other systems where I'd like to have MYSQL
>> running on these "slave" systems.
>> These slave systems need to be kept in synch with the Master, but it does
>> NOT need to be anywhere near real time.
>> The data in the slaves could lag as much a an hour or two.
>> The amount of data in total in the MASTER is in the range of 100MB -
>> 250MB
>> The rate of changes to the data is in the range 2000 - 5000 DML per 24
>> hour
>> day.
>> We control the application so we can/will include date/time each
>> record is
>> created or modified.
>> You can assume that no records ever get physically deleted; only INSERT &
>> UPDATE (no DELETE).
>>
>> What are some alternative ways to keep the slave systems "current"?
>>
>> TIA & HAND!
>>

>

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:34 AM
Baron Schwartz
 
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Default Re: MYSQL data replication

I don't run any master with that many slaves, for reasons that are irrelevant to
this thread, but I know there is a point at which the slaves begin to place too
much load on the master because they are all asking to read the binlog. I don't
know what that point is exactly, but perhaps others can give some advice on
that. I would expect, given the workload you describe, that 50 slaves might
work okay -- but you should not listen to me.

However, you can do multi-tier replication. Let's imagine the limit is ten
slaves, just for a round number. You can chain ten slaves off the master,
configure them with log-slave-updates, and then chain ten more slaves off each
of them. Now you can scale the system to 110 slaves with two tiers.

Baron

sol beach wrote:
> Can 1 Master scale to replicate to 50 - 60 slaves?
> I have limit experience with Master/Slave replication & doubt I can
> round up
> the hardware to test a 50 node configuration.
>
>
> On 6/8/07, Baron Schwartz <baron@xaprb.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi sol,
>>
>> sol beach wrote:
>> > I have limited experience with MYSQL replication; which is why I am

>> hoping
>> > others with more experience can answer a question or two.
>> > Let's say I have a MASTER MYSQL database.
>> > Let's say there are 50 - 60 other systems where I'd like to have MYSQL
>> > running on these "slave" systems.
>> > These slave systems need to be kept in synch with the Master, but it

>> does
>> > NOT need to be anywhere near real time.
>> > The data in the slaves could lag as much a an hour or two.
>> > The amount of data in total in the MASTER is in the range of 100MB -

>> 250MB
>> > The rate of changes to the data is in the range 2000 - 5000 DML per 24

>> hour
>> > day.
>> > We control the application so we can/will include date/time each record

>> is
>> > created or modified.
>> > You can assume that no records ever get physically deleted; only INSERT

>> &
>> > UPDATE (no DELETE).
>> >
>> > What are some alternative ways to keep the slave systems "current"?

>>
>> The best, easiest, simplest way to do this is just to use MySQL's
>> built-in
>> replication.
>> Once you learn its (many) strengths and (relatively few) weaknesses, it
>> works
>> extremely well.
>>
>> If you want to avoid some of the gotchas, I have written about my
>> experiences here:
>>
>> http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2007/01/20...tion-reliable/
>>
>>
>> Hand-rolling replication is a bad idea in my opinion, so I don't have any
>> alternative
>> methods to suggest. However, if you just need to sync some data
>> efficiently, try MySQL
>> Table Sync (http://mysqltoolkit.sourceforge.net/).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Baron
>>

>

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