From the dtlogin dtgreet screen, selecting "Options -> Command Line Login"
will allow you to access and log into the console as a traditional terminal.
My question is: Is there any way, perhaps a key or key sequence, to invoke
the command line login mode without using the mouse? It would seem this
would be desirable. For instance, the mouse could simply be broken.
Another reason might be if one were trying to log into and cleanly shut
down a system blind, during a power failure, where the machine is on an
UPS but the monitor is not.

Any ideas?

Rob

Rob Stampfli <restamp@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From the dtlogin dtgreet screen, selecting "Options -> Command Line Login"
> will allow you to access and log into the console as a traditional terminal.
> My question is: Is there any way, perhaps a key or key sequence, to invoke
> the command line login mode without using the mouse? It would seem this
> would be desirable. For instance, the mouse could simply be broken.
> Another reason might be if one were trying to log into and cleanly shut
> down a system blind, during a power failure, where the machine is on an
> UPS but the monitor is not.

I don't have one near me, but I recall it being just like windows.

tab to highlight the menu, cursor down to the selection, return to
select.

I wouldn't want to do it blind.

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Darren Dunham wrote:
> Rob Stampfli <restamp@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>From the dtlogin dtgreet screen, selecting "Options -> Command Line Login"
>>will allow you to access and log into the console as a traditional terminal.
>>My question is: Is there any way, perhaps a key or key sequence, to invoke
>>the command line login mode without using the mouse? It would seem this
>>would be desirable. For instance, the mouse could simply be broken.
>>Another reason might be if one were trying to log into and cleanly shut
>>down a system blind, during a power failure, where the machine is on an
>>UPS but the monitor is not.
>
>
> I don't have one near me, but I recall it being just like windows.
>
> tab to highlight the menu, cursor down to the selection, return to
> select.
>
> I wouldn't want to do it blind.
>

Nice try, but zero bananas. Hitting the tab key just moves the cursor
along one place (I assume, inserting ^I). Also the <ALT> key has no
effect; simply printing the <ALT>-ed character in the login name.

I have beaten my keyboard with alt, ctrl and shifted combinations, and
come up with squat :-(

Having a Logitech IR keyboard that delights in inserting character
strings (often "\ncs" and lines and lines of pipe symbols) into typing
when it feels like it (and often <DEL> to erase my emails :-( ), I have
trouble doing some things "sighted" let alone "blind" :-(

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Beardy <beardy@beardy.net> writes:

>Nice try, but zero bananas. Hitting the tab key just moves the cursor
>along one place (I assume, inserting ^I). Also the <ALT> key has no
>effect; simply printing the <ALT>-ed character in the login name.

On an x86 system, I was able to move the cursor with CTRL-TAB. That
got me as far as the OPTIONS button. But I was unable to find a way
to open up the menu.

I think it cannot be done. If you need access without a mouse, I
suggest disabling "dtlogin", and provide a shell script to start CDE
manually after a command line login (for those who need CDE).

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Neil W Rickert wrote:

> On an x86 system, I was able to move the cursor with CTRL-TAB. That
> got me as far as the OPTIONS button. But I was unable to find a way
> to open up the menu.

Well done Neil: I don't know how I missed CTRL-TAB.

When you get to the OPTIONS tab, hit the, err... space bar :-)

In article <ApYSb.488$3f3.106395@stones.force9.net>,
Beardy <beardy@beardy.net> wrote:
>
>Darren Dunham wrote:
>> Rob Stampfli <restamp@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>From the dtlogin dtgreet screen, selecting "Options -> Command Line Login"
>>>will allow you to access and log into the console as a traditional terminal.
>>>My question is: Is there any way, perhaps a key or key sequence, to invoke
>>>the command line login mode without using the mouse? It would seem this
>>>would be desirable. For instance, the mouse could simply be broken.
>>>Another reason might be if one were trying to log into and cleanly shut
>>>down a system blind, during a power failure, where the machine is on an
>>>UPS but the monitor is not.
>>
>>
>> I don't have one near me, but I recall it being just like windows.
>>
>> tab to highlight the menu, cursor down to the selection, return to
>> select.
>>
>> I wouldn't want to do it blind.
>>
>
>Nice try, but zero bananas. Hitting the tab key just moves the cursor
>along one place (I assume, inserting ^I). Also the <ALT> key has no
>effect; simply printing the <ALT>-ed character in the login name.
>
>I have beaten my keyboard with alt, ctrl and shifted combinations, and
>come up with squat :-(
>
>Having a Logitech IR keyboard that delights in inserting character
>strings (often "\ncs" and lines and lines of pipe symbols) into typing
>when it feels like it (and often <DEL> to erase my emails :-( ), I have
>trouble doing some things "sighted" let alone "blind" :-(

A tip of the hat goes to Franco Barber, who came up with the following
sequence in private mail to me (ugly to try to remember, blind, but it
works):

<CR> SHIFT-TAB SHIFT-TAB SPACE DOWN-ARROW DOWN-ARROW DOWN-ARROW <CR>

And many thanks to everyone who posted their suggestions and what
they had learned from hacking at the dtgreet screen.

Rob

Rob Stampfli wrote:

> A tip of the hat goes to Franco Barber, who came up with the following
> sequence in private mail to me (ugly to try to remember, blind, but it
> works):
>
> <CR> SHIFT-TAB SHIFT-TAB SPACE DOWN-ARROW DOWN-ARROW DOWN-ARROW <CR>
>
> And many thanks to everyone who posted their suggestions and what
> they had learned from hacking at the dtgreet screen.
>
> Rob

Rob, we all await your next one: maybe "How do I install solaris blind?
(without using jumpstart)" ;-)

Darren Dunham wrote:
> I don't have one near me, but I recall it being just like windows.
>
> tab to highlight the menu, cursor down to the selection, return to
> select.

Nope. With Shift-TAB you can get from the login field to the "buttons"
but there is no way to unfold the Options menu. Cursor-down is like
Cursor-right. I tried all combinations with Ctrl, Alt and Shift but no
success.

Hana
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