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Hello,

I'm using solaris 8 on sun blade 500 machines.
I am not the administrator. I browsed to through
the directory subtree in which gcc resides and
found lots of info files. On cygwin, I can use
the info command, but not on solaris. I did some
web searching and found that "info" is gnu specific.
On our system, the alternative is use the man pages,
but I don't find them very explanatory.

I searched for an info package at www.sunfreeware.com,
in hopes of asking the administrator to install it.
But it doesn't exist there. I went to the gcc homepage
http://gcc.gnu.org, but they don't have the online
manual for our version (3.2.1). Isn't it kind of odd
that they have online manuals for older and newer
versions, but not 3.2.1?

Anyway, is there a way to access the manual (not the
man pages) for gcc 3.2.1? Thanks.

Fred
--
Fred Ma
Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6

Fred Ma <fma@doe.carleton.ca> writes:

>I searched for an info package at www.sunfreeware.com,
>in hopes of asking the administrator to install it.
>But it doesn't exist there. I went to the gcc homepage

It is possibly called "texinfo".

Neil W Rickert wrote:
>
> Fred Ma <fma@doe.carleton.ca> writes:
>
> >I searched for an info package at www.sunfreeware.com,
> >in hopes of asking the administrator to install it.
> >But it doesn't exist there. I went to the gcc homepage
>
> It is possibly called "texinfo".

I tried it, but it's not recognized. I also tried
"man -k texinfo", again without any hits. My MANPATH
is

/home/fma/INSTROOT/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/man/man:/usr/man:/usr/local/man:/opt/dt/man:/usr/openwin/man:/opt/x11/current/man:/usr/local/X11R5/man:/usr/perl5/man:/opt/utils/ddd/man:/opt/gdb/man:/CMC/tools/synopsys/sim/doc/sim/man:/CMC/tools/synopsys/sim/doc/cy/man

Thanks anyway.

Fred
--
Fred Ma
Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6

Fred Ma wrote:
> I'm using solaris 8 on sun blade 500 machines.
> I am not the administrator. I browsed to through
> the directory subtree in which gcc resides and
> found lots of info files.

In a pinch, you can just do "more" or "less" or "view" on them.
They are just text files. Yeah, they have an occasional control
character, but it has never been enough to throw off any text
viewer program I've used. You won't get the hyperlinks and
stuff this way, but you will get the information.

By the way, it works best to do something like "cat gcc.info* | less"
so that you can view them all at once, since you don't have the
ability to jump between files, and info files rely heavily on
that ability. If you want them in proper numerical order, you can
do a "ls -1 gcc.info* | sort -t- +1n | xargs cat | less".

- Logan

In article <400A0868.B31DBE09@doe.carleton.ca>, Fred Ma wrote:
> Anyway, is there a way to access the manual (not the
> man pages) for gcc 3.2.1? Thanks.

The source of these manuals is in texinfo. It can be processed
by TeX, giving results that can printed or previewed. Alternatively,
it can be converted into info files which were originally intended
for emacs. The info command is just a tool to access info files
outside of emacs.

So if you have emacs installed but are just missing info, you
should attempt to access the gcc info files with emacs. Note
that emacs is shipped with Solaris on the ``Software Companion'' CD.

Alternatively, you can attempt to google for it as there are
many info (or texinfo) to html cgi scripts on the web around.

Andreas.

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Fred Ma <fma@doe.carleton.ca> writes:

> On cygwin, I can use the info command, but not on solaris.

If you have emacs installed on Solaris, emacs can browse and display
info files.

--
Maurizio Loreti http://www.pd.infn.it/~loreti/mlo.html
Dept. of Physics, Univ. of Padova, Italy ROT13: ybergv@cq.vasa.vg

Fred Ma <fma@doe.carleton.ca> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
|I searched for an info package at www.sunfreeware.com,
|in hopes of asking the administrator to install it.
|But it doesn't exist there.

Yes it does - the "info" command is part of the "texinfo" package,
which is available from the Sun Companion CD, sunfreeware.com, and
most other freeware sites.

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Alan Coopersmith alanc@alum.calberkeley.org
http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~alanc/ aka: Alan.Coopersmith@Sun.COM
Working for, but definitely not speaking for, Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article <bueh9u$1r49$2@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Alan Coopersmith <alanc@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>Fred Ma <fma@doe.carleton.ca> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
>|I searched for an info package at www.sunfreeware.com,
>|in hopes of asking the administrator to install it.
>|But it doesn't exist there.
>
>Yes it does - the "info" command is part of the "texinfo" package,
>which is available from the Sun Companion CD, sunfreeware.com, and
>most other freeware sites.

While I would brefer that FSF would move towards the standard 'man'
format which is part of the POSIX standard, the problem is that
Sun is installing 'info' to a place where nobody looks for it:

/usr/sfw/bin/info

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Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> In article <bueh9u$1r49$2@agate.berkeley.edu>,
> Alan Coopersmith <alanc@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >Fred Ma <fma@doe.carleton.ca> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
> >|I searched for an info package at www.sunfreeware.com,
> >|in hopes of asking the administrator to install it.
> >|But it doesn't exist there.
> >
> >Yes it does - the "info" command is part of the "texinfo" package,
> >which is available from the Sun Companion CD, sunfreeware.com, and
> >most other freeware sites.
>
> While I would brefer that FSF would move towards the standard 'man'
> format which is part of the POSIX standard, the problem is that
> Sun is installing 'info' to a place where nobody looks for it:
>
> /usr/sfw/bin/info

Thanks for all your suggestions: using "less", using "emacs",
converting to html, and the location of texinfo at
www.sunfreeware.com.

Since gcc and its documentation set is big and complicated,
I think the hyperlinking is important. I tried emacs, but
having used vi[m] for as long as I can remember, it's a
little difficult. Also, I'm getting caught into the trap
of spending lots of time getting to know tools, rather than
actual algorithm development e.g. just getting to know
info, vim's taglist, source-navigator, etc., etc.. So I'm
going to shy away from learning another app now (especially
since I already spent the time with info), but more than
likely, I will do so in the future.

That's just a long winded apology for not spending more time
to learn emacs right now (but the reasons are truthful).

I'll ask my system administrator to install texinfo when he
has a moemnt.

Thanks again.

Fred

P.S. Isn't info more powerful than man? We don't have
hyperlinks in man pages. Whenever I see an underlined
reference, I have no idea where to start looking for it.
--
Fred Ma
Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6

At 19 Jan 2004 00:36:09 GMT, js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) writes:

> While I would brefer that FSF would move towards the standard 'man'
> format which is part of the POSIX standard,

Hmm, where is 'man' format specified by POSIX? POSIX specifies an
extremely minimal form of the 'man' command (and this only for systems
that support the User Portability Utilities option), but I don't see
where it specifies 'man' format.

Or perhaps you're referring to the textual format of the POSIX
standard itself? In that case, I'd say that it's not appropriate for
all forms of documentation; certainly not for GCC.