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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Praveen Kunjapur
 
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Default Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

I received the Solaris 10 kit which Sun Microsystems provided free of
cost to anyone in the world a year back.

When I received the kit, I inserted the DVD of the x86 version of
Solaris 10 in the DVD drive of my x86 system. I followed all the steps
till the steps of partioning the hard disk and installing the Solaris
packages in my system.

Now here's where my problem starts. After installing all the packages
in my system, the system goes for a reboot. After rebooting, the
system shows the CLI for a moment and suddenly goes into what it seems
like a suspend/hibernate mode. Even when I press the keys of my
keyboard or move my mouse, the system does not come out of the suspend/
hibernate state.

How to overcome this problem?

I haven't been able to use neither a single command in CLI of Solaris
nor been able to see, forget about using, the Java Desktop System in
Solaris 10. The version of Solaris which I have is Solaris 10 - Update
11/06.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Andrew Gabriel
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

In article <3a349621-061d-41b5-8d76-fab05578aa4e@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Praveen Kunjapur <Praveen.Kunjapur@gmail.com> writes:
> I received the Solaris 10 kit which Sun Microsystems provided free of
> cost to anyone in the world a year back.
>
> When I received the kit, I inserted the DVD of the x86 version of
> Solaris 10 in the DVD drive of my x86 system. I followed all the steps
> till the steps of partioning the hard disk and installing the Solaris
> packages in my system.
>
> Now here's where my problem starts. After installing all the packages
> in my system, the system goes for a reboot. After rebooting, the
> system shows the CLI for a moment and suddenly goes into what it seems
> like a suspend/hibernate mode. Even when I press the keys of my
> keyboard or move my mouse, the system does not come out of the suspend/
> hibernate state.


I can think of 3 places this might be failing. You haven't
given enough info to tell which it is.

1) You see the grub menu, and nothing after that.

2) You see the grub menu and then the first couple of lines
from Solaris with the release and copyright message,
and nothing after that. These are output using the BIOS
services as Solaris hasn't loaded the console driver at
this stage.

3) You get some further output, such as "Hostname: unknown"
but then it goes dead. This would indicate the probing or
initialising of the X server is killing the console.

> How to overcome this problem?


1) Don't know
2) Make sure you don't have PnP OS set in the BIOS.
3) Need to boot single user and configure the X server using
kdmconfig(1M). In such cases I recommend switching to Xsun.
I had bad experiences with Xorg back then -- it was nowhere
near as good as Xsun at correctly detecting hardware and
coming up with a workable X server. (Xorg is much better
at this now -- downloading a newer release might be something
else to try.)

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Praveen Kunjapur
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

On Apr 27, 5:37*pm, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:

> I can think of 3 places this might be failing. You haven't
> given enough info to tell which it is.


I see the grub and it is from where the system is booted. After that I
see all those "messages" and "oks', which we get to see in any UNIX or
UNIX-like OS after grub. At the point when the system is supposed to
show the screen of login and password, the system goes dead. As you
can understand, I can't even log in as root. Since I can't do anything
at this point, I switch off the main power supply of my pc and again
switch it on. If I have to solve the problem, I can only solve through
grub.


> 3) You get some further output, such as "Hostname: unknown"
> * *but then it goes dead. This would indicate the probing or
> * *initialising of the X server is killing the console.


I get some further output, such as "Hostname: unknown" but then it
goes dead.



> > How to overcome this problem?


> 3) Need to boot single user and configure the X server using
> * *kdmconfig(1M). In such cases I recommend switching to Xsun.
> * *I had bad experiences with Xorg back then -- it was nowhere
> * *near as good as Xsun at correctly detecting hardware and
> * *coming up with a workable X server. (Xorg is much better
> * *at this now -- downloading a newer release might be something
> * *else to try.)


Can you give me detailed instructions for this method step by step as
I never used Solaris before in my life! If nothing else works, I will
download a new release.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Praveen Kunjapur
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

On Apr 27, 7:21*pm, Praveen Kunjapur <Praveen.Kunja...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 27, 5:37*pm, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel)
> wrote:
>
> > I can think of 3 places this might be failing. You haven't
> > given enough info to tell which it is.

>
> I see the grub and it is from where the system is booted. After that I
> see all those "messages" and "oks', which we get to see in any UNIX or
> UNIX-like OS after grub. *At the point when the system is supposed to
> show the screen of login and password, the system goes dead. As you
> can understand, I can't even log in as root. Since I can't do anything
> at this point, I switch off the main power supply of my pc and again
> switch it on. If I have to solve the problem, I can only solve through
> grub.


Sorry it should read as 'OKs' - Okays. (Just to inform you, in case
you overlooked, this is the fourth post in this thread. I answered to
your post in the third post of this thread).
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Oscar del Rio
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

Praveen Kunjapur wrote:
> I see the grub and it is from where the system is booted. After that I
> see all those "messages" and "oks', which we get to see in any UNIX or
> UNIX-like OS after grub. At the point when the system is supposed to
> show the screen of login and password, the system goes dead. As you
> can understand, I can't even log in as root. Since I can't do anything
> at this point, I switch off the main power supply of my pc and again
> switch it on. If I have to solve the problem, I can only solve through
> grub.


you should try a more recent version. I would recommend Solaris Express
Community Edition from www.opensolaris.org, it should have the most
recent drivers.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Andrew Gabriel
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

In article <348d6034-5c56-494c-abe7-88b1ab0aa544@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Praveen Kunjapur <Praveen.Kunjapur@gmail.com> writes:
> On Apr 27, 5:37*pm, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel)
> wrote:
>> I can think of 3 places this might be failing. You haven't
>> given enough info to tell which it is.

> I see the grub and it is from where the system is booted. After that I
> see all those "messages" and "oks', which we get to see in any UNIX or
> UNIX-like OS after grub. At the point when the system is supposed to
> show the screen of login and password, the system goes dead. As you
> can understand, I can't even log in as root. Since I can't do anything
> at this point, I switch off the main power supply of my pc and again
> switch it on. If I have to solve the problem, I can only solve through
> grub.
>> 3) You get some further output, such as "Hostname: unknown"
>> * *but then it goes dead. This would indicate the probing or
>> * *initialising of the X server is killing the console.

> I get some further output, such as "Hostname: unknown" but then it
> goes dead.
>> > How to overcome this problem?

>> 3) Need to boot single user and configure the X server using
>> * *kdmconfig(1M). In such cases I recommend switching to Xsun.
>> * *I had bad experiences with Xorg back then -- it was nowhere
>> * *near as good as Xsun at correctly detecting hardware and
>> * *coming up with a workable X server. (Xorg is much better
>> * *at this now -- downloading a newer release might be something
>> * *else to try.)

> Can you give me detailed instructions for this method step by step as
> I never used Solaris before in my life! If nothing else works, I will
> download a new release.


Select the system to boot in grub, and hit 'e' (edit) rather than return.
Select the kernel line, and again hit 'e' (edit)
Add a '-s' (single user) to the end of the line and hit return
Hit 'b' to boot with this modified option.

System will now boot single user and ask for the root password.
Enter the password, and you will end up with a shell prompt.
Run the command 'kdmconfig'
Select Xsun server
Then you will go on through the configuration and test screens.
Note that drivers starting XF86 are the same drivers Xorg uses,
and might crash in the same way as the Xorg server does, in which
case choose a Sun driver (not starting XF86) for your video card.
I think it defaults to the XF86 ones when there's both a Sun driver
and an Xorg driver, but XF86 ones don't always work.

When you've got it working, exit from the root shell and the system
will continue booting into multiuser, and the X login should appear.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Cydrome Leader
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

Praveen Kunjapur <Praveen.Kunjapur@gmail.com> wrote:
> I received the Solaris 10 kit which Sun Microsystems provided free of
> cost to anyone in the world a year back.
>
> When I received the kit, I inserted the DVD of the x86 version of
> Solaris 10 in the DVD drive of my x86 system. I followed all the steps
> till the steps of partioning the hard disk and installing the Solaris
> packages in my system.
>
> Now here's where my problem starts. After installing all the packages
> in my system, the system goes for a reboot. After rebooting, the
> system shows the CLI for a moment and suddenly goes into what it seems
> like a suspend/hibernate mode. Even when I press the keys of my


It's probably switching into CDE and your monitor cannot handle the
settings it's using.

does it flash a login prompt just before "sleeping"?

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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Praveen Kunjapur
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

On Apr 27, 9:00*pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

> It's probably switching into CDE and your monitor cannot handle the
> settings it's using.
>
> does it flash a login prompt just before "sleeping"?


yes.

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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Kostik Belousov
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes:

> In article <3a349621-061d-41b5-8d76-fab05578aa4e@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> Praveen Kunjapur <Praveen.Kunjapur@gmail.com> writes:
>> I received the Solaris 10 kit which Sun Microsystems provided free of
>> cost to anyone in the world a year back.
>>
>> When I received the kit, I inserted the DVD of the x86 version of
>> Solaris 10 in the DVD drive of my x86 system. I followed all the steps
>> till the steps of partioning the hard disk and installing the Solaris
>> packages in my system.
>>
>> Now here's where my problem starts. After installing all the packages
>> in my system, the system goes for a reboot. After rebooting, the
>> system shows the CLI for a moment and suddenly goes into what it seems
>> like a suspend/hibernate mode. Even when I press the keys of my
>> keyboard or move my mouse, the system does not come out of the suspend/
>> hibernate state.

>
> I can think of 3 places this might be failing. You haven't
> given enough info to tell which it is.
>
> 1) You see the grub menu, and nothing after that.
>
> 2) You see the grub menu and then the first couple of lines
> from Solaris with the release and copyright message,
> and nothing after that. These are output using the BIOS
> services as Solaris hasn't loaded the console driver at
> this stage.

This is a "me too" kind of followup.

I have a home machine where attempt to boot the 5/08 installation DVD
ends up by this:

module /platform/i86pc/kernel/unix: text at [0xfe800000, 0xfe882caf] data at 0xfec00000
module misc/krtld: text at [0xfe882cb0, 0xfe8915e7] data at 0xfec413b0
module /kernel/genunix: text at [0xfe8915e8, 0xfe9b330f] data at 0xfec46a20
SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic_127128-11 32-bit
Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
features: 1001fdf<cpuid,sep,pat,cx8,pae,mca,mmx,cmov,pge,mtr r,msr,tsc,lgpg>
Using default device instance data

[The boot is in the verbose mode. Attempt to disable acpi enum, or completely
disable ACPI by 0x2, or tweak the PnP OS in the BIOS change nothing].

The DVD is verified to be written OK.

The machine is quite old 2xCPU 440BX that give me zero problems so far,
even in the ACPI on both FreeBSD (some time ago) and Solaris 10.

The machine boots the 127128-11 kernel from the disk normally (it has a
patched 11/06 installation on HDD).

Any advice ?

Thanks.

> 1) Don't know
> 2) Make sure you don't have PnP OS set in the BIOS.
> 3) Need to boot single user and configure the X server using
> kdmconfig(1M). In such cases I recommend switching to Xsun.
> I had bad experiences with Xorg back then -- it was nowhere
> near as good as Xsun at correctly detecting hardware and
> coming up with a workable X server. (Xorg is much better
> at this now -- downloading a newer release might be something
> else to try.)
>
> --
> Andrew Gabriel
> [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

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Old 04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Cydrome Leader
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 11/06 problems.

Praveen Kunjapur <Praveen.Kunjapur@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 9:00?pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>
>> It's probably switching into CDE and your monitor cannot handle the
>> settings it's using.
>>
>> does it flash a login prompt just before "sleeping"?

>
> yes.



Ok, that's the problem then. I'm not at a sun machine, so this is from
memory.

you can try to login really fast, then wait a minute before it drops back
to a shell in text mode. This may not work.

OR

boot single user mode. In the grub boot menu, hit e or something like that
then edit the line with kernel config stuff

add a

-s

after the "boot".

after you get a prompt, you'll want to disable the dtlogin screen

run

/usr/dt/bin/dtconfig -d

or

svcadm disable cde-login

then reboot. init 6 is fine.

Something has to be wrong with your graphics settings that confuse your
monitor and make it shut off.


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