Hi all,

first of all sorry for my bad english

I have a SUN server with 2 network interfaces (hme0 and hme1) and a few
Sun Ray's. The Ray's use the hme1 interface.
The hme0 has the ip-adress 13.200.233.80 and hme1 has 192.168.1.1.
I just installed the SUNWpppd*-Packages to use my ADSL-connection with
Solaris (pppd with pppoe). The ADSL-connection uses the hme0 interface.
There is no /etc/notrouter, but a /etc/defaultrouter, which contains the
ip 13.200.233.80, only.
Now the problem:
If the /etc/defaultrouter-file contains the ip-adress, it takes a long
time to resolve domains and to connect to any sites on the internet (on
the server and on the rays). often i can't connect to any sites on the
internet.
But if i put localhost in the /etc/defaultrouter, i can use the internet
without any problems on the server, but i can't use it on the ray's.
(the same if /etc/defaultrouter is empty).
is it possible to get pppd with pppoe work on Sun rays?
Thank you.

Julian

Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes:
>
>is it possible to get pppd with pppoe work on Sun rays?
>

SunRay units do not run Solaris (or any other OS supported by pppd).

You can make the SunRay server work with pppd, and then the SunRay
sessions (which run on the SunRay server) will work with the PPP
connection.

-Greg
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Greg Andrews wrote:
> Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes:
>
>>is it possible to get pppd with pppoe work on Sun rays?
>>
>
>
> SunRay units do not run Solaris (or any other OS supported by pppd).
>
> You can make the SunRay server work with pppd, and then the SunRay
> sessions (which run on the SunRay server) will work with the PPP
> connection.


yes, this is what i want to say
I installed pppd and pppoe on the SunRay Server and would like to use
this connection in my SunRay sessions.
i can use the connection on the server, but never from a SunRay session.
The question is why it fails in the SunRay sessions and works directly
on the server.

Julian

Julian Thomas wrote:
> Greg Andrews wrote:
>
>> Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes:
>>
>>> is it possible to get pppd with pppoe work on Sun rays?
>>>
>>
>>
>> SunRay units do not run Solaris (or any other OS supported by pppd).
>>
>> You can make the SunRay server work with pppd, and then the SunRay
>> sessions (which run on the SunRay server) will work with the PPP
>> connection.
>
>
>
> yes, this is what i want to say
> I installed pppd and pppoe on the SunRay Server and would like to use
> this connection in my SunRay sessions.
> i can use the connection on the server, but never from a SunRay session.
> The question is why it fails in the SunRay sessions and works directly
> on the server.
>
> Julian
>
When it succeeds from the console, are you logged in as the same user
as when it fails from the SunRay?


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Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
|i can use the connection on the server, but never from a SunRay session.

Everything you see on the Sun Ray is running on the server and most
applications can't tell if you're on a Sun Ray or not, so if you're
having problems, it would appear you don't really have it working on
the server.

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Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes:
>
>I installed pppd and pppoe on the SunRay Server and would like to use
>this connection in my SunRay sessions.
>

Can you describe exactly how you want to use it? Telnet or FTP
to a site on the Internet doesn't work from a dtterm window on
a SunRay?

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Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes:
> yes, this is what i want to say
> I installed pppd and pppoe on the SunRay Server and would like to use
> this connection in my SunRay sessions.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're doing here, but I'll
make some guesses ...

PPP creates a network interface. Once the interface is up, it's
usable by *anyone* on the system. So, if you create one on the SunRay
server, then all SunRay users will have access to the PPP link. Is
that what you want?

Assuming that's what you want, what you're describing sounds like a
permissions problem of some sort. Please post *exact* logs containing
the failures you see -- include as much information as you can. (Of
particular use: the contents of /etc/ppp, the messages logged via
syslog when the "debug" option is used in pppd, and any messages you
see on stderr.)

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James Carlson wrote:
> Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes:
>
>>yes, this is what i want to say
>>I installed pppd and pppoe on the SunRay Server and would like to use
>>this connection in my SunRay sessions.
>
>
> I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're doing here, but I'll
> make some guesses ...
>
> PPP creates a network interface. Once the interface is up, it's
> usable by *anyone* on the system. So, if you create one on the SunRay
> server, then all SunRay users will have access to the PPP link. Is
> that what you want?
>
> Assuming that's what you want, what you're describing sounds like a
> permissions problem of some sort. Please post *exact* logs containing
> the failures you see -- include as much information as you can. (Of
> particular use: the contents of /etc/ppp, the messages logged via
> syslog when the "debug" option is used in pppd, and any messages you
> see on stderr.)
>

Thank you all for the replies.
Because of my bad english and the tests i've done i try to describe
the problem again:

I have got a SUN RAY Server with SUN's SUNWpppd* packages installed.
Now, i establishe a connection to my ISP with ppp and pppoe.
something like pppd call isp. ifconfig shows something like this:

sppp1: flags=10008d1<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,MULTICA ST,IPv4> mtu
1492 index 7
inet 217.234.116.120 --> 217.5.98.166 netmask ffffff00

So i can use my internet connection.But if i try to connect to a server
(http with mozilla, ping, fetchmail for my mails or something else)
i can't connect to the server. The hosts were not found.
If i try to connect again (after 1 second), the hosts were found.
Si always need 2 or more attempts to connect to a server on the
internet. It's a nightmare for cron jobs...

So i thinked it's a problem with the routing table. My
/etc/defaultrouter contains just the ip adress (13.200.233.80).
This is not the ip adress from the NIC with the SUN RAY Network.

I changed the entry in /etc/deafultrouter to 127.0.0.1.
I have rebooted the machine and then the first attempt were succesfully,
always and every user could use the internet with the first attempt
_but_ no SUN Ray could connect to the server. The SUn Rays could not
found the server.

I changed the /etc/defaultrouter again to 13.200.233.80 127.0.0.1
or
13.200.233.80
127.0.0.1

(newline and space seperated - i tried both - the manpages says
"separated by white space"), but it seems meanless (the SUN Ray can
connect, but no host is found with one attempt).

So it doesn't depend on the configuration of the pppd settings.
It just is a problem with the routing.

What can i do to get this work?
It's horrible to browse the internet if you must request a site
two or more times in the Browser to see the site.

(I never get any error messages in any logfile or on the console)

Julian

Julian Thomas wrote:
> James Carlson wrote:
>
>> Julian Thomas <julian.thomas@t-online.de> writes:
>>
>>> yes, this is what i want to say
>>> I installed pppd and pppoe on the SunRay Server and would like to use
>>> this connection in my SunRay sessions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're doing here, but I'll
>> make some guesses ...
>>
>> PPP creates a network interface. Once the interface is up, it's
>> usable by *anyone* on the system. So, if you create one on the SunRay
>> server, then all SunRay users will have access to the PPP link. Is
>> that what you want?
>>
>> Assuming that's what you want, what you're describing sounds like a
>> permissions problem of some sort. Please post *exact* logs containing
>> the failures you see -- include as much information as you can. (Of
>> particular use: the contents of /etc/ppp, the messages logged via
>> syslog when the "debug" option is used in pppd, and any messages you
>> see on stderr.)
>>
>
> Thank you all for the replies.
> Because of my bad english and the tests i've done i try to describe
> the problem again:
>
> I have got a SUN RAY Server with SUN's SUNWpppd* packages installed.
> Now, i establishe a connection to my ISP with ppp and pppoe.
> something like pppd call isp. ifconfig shows something like this:
>
> sppp1: flags=10008d1<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,MULTICA ST,IPv4> mtu
> 1492 index 7
> inet 217.234.116.120 --> 217.5.98.166 netmask ffffff00
>
> So i can use my internet connection.But if i try to connect to a server
> (http with mozilla, ping, fetchmail for my mails or something else)
> i can't connect to the server. The hosts were not found.
> If i try to connect again (after 1 second), the hosts were found.
> Si always need 2 or more attempts to connect to a server on the
> internet. It's a nightmare for cron jobs...
>
> So i thinked it's a problem with the routing table. My
> /etc/defaultrouter contains just the ip adress (13.200.233.80).
> This is not the ip adress from the NIC with the SUN RAY Network.
>
> I changed the entry in /etc/deafultrouter to 127.0.0.1.
> I have rebooted the machine and then the first attempt were succesfully,
> always and every user could use the internet with the first attempt
> _but_ no SUN Ray could connect to the server. The SUn Rays could not
> found the server.
>
> I changed the /etc/defaultrouter again to 13.200.233.80 127.0.0.1
> or
> 13.200.233.80
> 127.0.0.1
>
> (newline and space seperated - i tried both - the manpages says
> "separated by white space"), but it seems meanless (the SUN Ray can
> connect, but no host is found with one attempt).
>
> So it doesn't depend on the configuration of the pppd settings.
> It just is a problem with the routing.
>
> What can i do to get this work?
> It's horrible to browse the internet if you must request a site
> two or more times in the Browser to see the site.
>
> (I never get any error messages in any logfile or on the console)
>
> Julian
>

Did you edit /etc/nsswitch.conf?
You should add dns to this line:

hosts: files dns

just a guess, I had this problem a few weeks ago.
Good luck...

greywolf wrote:
> Did you edit /etc/nsswitch.conf?
> You should add dns to this line:
>
> hosts: files dns

yes, it is there.
>
> just a guess, I had this problem a few weeks ago.
> Good luck...

Thanks

Julian