Re: Board for developers

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:

>> Hi there,
>>
>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
>> their availability for contract work ?
>>
>> For example, I and Teodor will be available soon
>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
>> companies could evaluate it.
>>
>
> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...

The question is how it's visible to companies ?

>
> /Magnus
>

Regards,
Oleg
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Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
>>> their availability for contract work ?
>>>
>>> For example, I and Teodor will be available soon
>>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
>>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
>>> companies could evaluate it.
>>>
>>
>> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...
>
> The question is how it's visible to companies ?

We already have the pgsql-jobs mailing list. It's normally used for
postings of job positions, but I think this would also be suitable
there. Not sure how much visibility that has.

--
Heikki Linnakangas
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com

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On Dec 17, 2007 3:23 PM, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
> >>> their availability for contract work ?
> >>>
> >>> For example, I and Teodor will be available soon
> >>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
> >>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
> >>> companies could evaluate it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...
> >
> > The question is how it's visible to companies ?
>
> We already have the pgsql-jobs mailing list. It's normally used for
> postings of job positions, but I think this would also be suitable
> there. Not sure how much visibility that has.

Personally, I think Josh is right in terms of using community
resources to promote developers, beyond what's already there.
Unfortunately the jobs list is better suited for people offering jobs,
not job seekers. Maybe an expansion of the developer section of the
web page might be a good place to indirectly make contact.

If you are looking for consulting work, I would suggest moving your
page to a more of a blog type format, and publish at least
semi-regularly.

Make sure your feed is picked up on postgresql.org, of course :-).
Contract work I know very little about. I suspect it is going to
depend on how well you can leverage your personal contacts. Many
companies are nervous outsourcing DBA work (and in my experience there
is lots of high paying work out there, at least in the U.S.) because
better suited to a long term position.

Being famous as part of the brains behind GIST is certainly something.
Relentless self promotion helps :-).

merlin

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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Merlin Moncure wrote:

> On Dec 17, 2007 3:23 PM, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>>>> just interested do we have a place where developers could post
>>>>> their availability for contract work ?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, I and Teodor will be available soon
>>>>> for contract work and we prefer to work on postgres-related projects,
>>>>> mostly from our todo list. I'd like to post this list somewhere, so
>>>>> companies could evaluate it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A page on the developer wiki makes sense to me...
>>>
>>> The question is how it's visible to companies ?
>>
>> We already have the pgsql-jobs mailing list. It's normally used for
>> postings of job positions, but I think this would also be suitable
>> there. Not sure how much visibility that has.
>
> Personally, I think Josh is right in terms of using community
> resources to promote developers, beyond what's already there.
> Unfortunately the jobs list is better suited for people offering jobs,
> not job seekers. Maybe an expansion of the developer section of the
> web page might be a good place to indirectly make contact.

I think this is the best place. Wiki is a good place for todo and proposals,
not for companies.

>
> If you are looking for consulting work, I would suggest moving your
> page to a more of a blog type format, and publish at least
> semi-regularly.
>
> Make sure your feed is picked up on postgresql.org, of course :-).
> Contract work I know very little about. I suspect it is going to
> depend on how well you can leverage your personal contacts. Many
> companies are nervous outsourcing DBA work (and in my experience there
> is lots of high paying work out there, at least in the U.S.) because
> better suited to a long term position.
>
> Being famous as part of the brains behind GIST is certainly something.
> Relentless self promotion helps :-).

It looks like most developers are already employed. Some of them have
full-time postgres-related position and they don't needed any promotion,
others could work on small projects in spare time only and also don't
interested in such promotion.

Our situation is different, we have involved into many postgres-related
projects, some of them rather popular and we have permanent pressure
from users to improve, extend, support our products. We also have our
Todo list (http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/wiki/todo), we'd happy to work on,
instead of working on some weird contract work. I'm sure there are companies,
which need K-neighbourhood search or better GIN update, but how let them
know this is doable and developers are waiting for suppport
Probably, it should be done in a more friendly form.

Regards,
Oleg
__________________________________________________ ___________
Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru),
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83

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