Hi,

On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 08:28 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
>
> Devrim was working with another potential contributor though, dunno
> how that's going.

Ok, I talked with them now. They need the following information:

- What type of hardware do we need? Is an Opteron enough? Memory? Disk?
- Do we need a private box, or is a VM enough?
- What is the average traffic of our web servers?

Bandwith is not cheap in Turkey, so they are inclined to put that server
somewhere outside Turkey.

They are ready to proceed, they just want to learn the details.

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On Monday 26 June 2006 03:28, Dave Page wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Treat [mailto:xzilla@users.sourceforge.net]
> > Sent: 24 June 2006 20:50
> > To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> > Cc: Andrew Dunstan; Tom Lane; Dave Page
> > Subject: Re: Anyone still care about Cygwin? (was Re:
> > [HACKERS] [CORE] GPL
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > wasn't someone just trying to donate a machine to us for the
> > website but we
> > weren't sure what to do with it? One that could do VM's?
> > Seems we could use
> > that for some buildfarm members maybe.
>
> As with most of these, the two I was discussing recently fell through
> (usual problem, company making the offer seems to think we run the
> entire project off one ancient server, and therefore think that the
> celeron box they offer will entitle them to be listed as hosts of the
> entire project).
>

Right, but I am thinking that maybe we should ask these guys if they can offer
boxes for the buildfarm, which could run from a celeron box.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Treat [mailto:xzilla@users.sourceforge.net]
> Sent: 26 June 2006 16:08
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Andrew Dunstan; Tom Lane;
> Devrim GUNDUZ
> Subject: Re: Anyone still care about Cygwin? (was Re:
> [HACKERS] [CORE] GPL
>
> Right, but I am thinking that maybe we should ask these guys
> if they can offer
> boxes for the buildfarm, which could run from a celeron box.

Ahh, you miss the point though - they vanish back into the woodwork when
they realise that they can't brag that they host the entire project.
It's not that they want to help, they just want maximum publicity off
our name for as little hardware as possible.

I should mention at this point that not all companies are like this, and
we do have some very generous contributors to whom we are very grateful.

Regards, Dave.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@commandprompt.com]
> Sent: 26 June 2006 15:03
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: Robert Treat; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Andrew
> Dunstan; Tom Lane
> Subject: Re: Anyone still care about Cygwin? (was Re:
> [HACKERS] [CORE] GPL
>
>
> Ok, I talked with them now. They need the following information:
>
> - What type of hardware do we need? Is an Opteron enough?
> Memory? Disk?

Depends what it was used for.

> - Do we need a private box, or is a VM enough?

As above.

> - What is the average traffic of our web servers?

Dunno, but not a huge figure - the network is heavily specc'ed towards
high availability and coping with a good /.ing. Individual servers tend
to be very lightly loaded.

> Bandwith is not cheap in Turkey, so they are inclined to put
> that server
> somewhere outside Turkey.
>
> They are ready to proceed, they just want to learn the details.

Well I think Robert is suggesting we setup a box with a bunch of VM's
running different OS's as buildfarm clients. I don't know how useful
that would be, but at the least, with VMWare (or Bochs if it's mature
enough now) and a Windows licence it could run nightly builds of Mingw
and Cygwin, and with just VMWare it could do Solaris x86, and an
assortment of Linuxes and *BSDs.

Regards, Dave.

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Dave, all,

> Ahh, you miss the point though - they vanish back into the woodwork when
> they realise that they can't brag that they host the entire project.
> It's not that they want to help, they just want maximum publicity off
> our name for as little hardware as possible.

I seem to have missed a cycle. Who are we talking about?

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