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Re: Modifying TOAST thresholds

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Old 04-12-2008, 08:11 AM
Luke Lonergan
 
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Default Re: Modifying TOAST thresholds

Not just EDB :-)

- Luke

Msg is shrt cuz m on ma treo

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Browne [mailto:cbbrowne@acm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:07 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Modifying TOAST thresholds

tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us (Tom Lane) writes:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:
>> The big question is whether this is for 8.3 or 8.4.

>
> What I would definitely like to see for 8.3 is some performance testing
> done to determine whether we ought to change the current defaults.
> (Both TOAST_TUPLES_PER_PAGE and EXTERN_TUPLES_PER_PAGE ought to be looked
> at.)
>
> Whether it's possible to get the storage parameter in there depends on
> how soon someone produces a patch. Given that we understand this area
> fairly well, I personally would be willing to give it a pass on the
> "feature freeze" rule, as long as we have the patch by say mid-April.


If I had to end of April, I'd volunteer. Alas, I will be unavailable
between tomorrow and mid-April.

It seems to me that changing the denominator from 4 to something
somewhat higher (16 comes to mind) would probably be "the patch," and
would likely be useful for a fair number of cases. I'd really like to
see something like this (e.g. - something that would start TOASTing
for, say, tuples > 500 bytes) in 8.3; this seems to me to have the
potential to be a significant optimization that would be VERY cheap to
implement. "Low hanging fruit," so to speak.

EDB might like to use this as a route into a tunable "column store"
some time later; I don't think that should stop us from an improvement
today...
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