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Old 04-18-2008, 11:04 AM
Marinos J. Yannikos
 
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Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Marinos J. Yannikos wrote:
>> concurrent access to GiST indexes isn't possible at the moment. I [...]

>
> there are should no problem with READ access.


OK, thanks everyone (perhaps it would make sense to clarify this in the
manual).

> I'm willing to see some details: version, query, explain analyze.


8.0.0

Query while the box is idle:

explain analyze select count(*) from fr_offer o, fr_merchant m where
idxfti @@ to_tsquery('ranz & mc') and eur >= 70 and m.m_id=o.m_id;

Aggregate (cost=2197.48..2197.48 rows=1 width=0) (actual
time=88.052..88.054 rows=1 loops=1)
-> Merge Join (cost=2157.42..2196.32 rows=461 width=0) (actual
time=88.012..88.033 rows=3 loops=1)
Merge Cond: ("outer".m_id = "inner".m_id)
-> Index Scan using fr_merchant_pkey on fr_merchant m
(cost=0.00..29.97 rows=810 width=4) (actual time=0.041..1.233 rows=523
loops=1)
-> Sort (cost=2157.42..2158.57 rows=461 width=4) (actual
time=85.779..85.783 rows=3 loops=1)
Sort Key: o.m_id
-> Index Scan using idxfti_idx on fr_offer o
(cost=0.00..2137.02 rows=461 width=4) (actual time=77.957..85.754 rows=3
loops=1)
Index Cond: (idxfti @@ '\'ranz\' & \'mc\''::tsquery)
Filter: (eur >= 70::double precision)

Total runtime: 88.131 ms

now, while using apachebench (-c10), "top" says this:

Cpu0 : 15.3% us, 10.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 74.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Cpu1 : 13.3% us, 11.6% sy, 0.0% ni, 75.1% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Cpu2 : 16.9% us, 9.6% sy, 0.0% ni, 73.4% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Cpu3 : 18.7% us, 14.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 67.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.3% si

(this is with shared_buffers = 2000; a larger setting makes almost no
difference for overall performance: although according to "top" system
time goes to ~0 and user time to ~25%, the system still stays 70-75% idle)

vmstat:

r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us
sy id wa
2 0 0 8654316 64908 4177136 0 0 56 35 279 286 5
1 94 0
2 0 0 8646188 64908 4177136 0 0 0 0 1156 2982 15
10 75 0
2 0 0 8658412 64908 4177136 0 0 0 0 1358 3098 19
11 70 0
1 0 0 8646508 64908 4177136 0 0 0 104 1145 2070 13
12 75 0

so the script's execution speed is apparently not limited by the CPUs.

The query execution times go up like this while apachebench is running
(and the system is 75% idle):

Aggregate (cost=2197.48..2197.48 rows=1 width=0) (actual
time=952.661..952.663 rows=1 loops=1)
-> Merge Join (cost=2157.42..2196.32 rows=461 width=0) (actual
time=952.621..952.641 rows=3 loops=1)
Merge Cond: ("outer".m_id = "inner".m_id)
-> Index Scan using fr_merchant_pkey on fr_merchant m
(cost=0.00..29.97 rows=810 width=4) (actual time=2.078..3.338 rows=523
loops=1)
-> Sort (cost=2157.42..2158.57 rows=461 width=4) (actual
time=948.345..948.348 rows=3 loops=1)
Sort Key: o.m_id
-> Index Scan using idxfti_idx on fr_offer o
(cost=0.00..2137.02 rows=461 width=4) (actual time=875.643..948.301
rows=3 loops=1)
Index Cond: (idxfti @@ '\'ranz\' & \'mc\''::tsquery)
Filter: (eur >= 70::double precision)
Total runtime: 952.764 ms

I can't seem to find out where the bottleneck is, but it doesn't seem to
be CPU or disk. "top" shows that postgres processes are frequently in
this state:

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ WCHAN
COMMAND
6701 postgres 16 0 204m 58m 56m S 9.3 0.2 0:06.96 semtimedo
^^^^^^^^^
postmaste

Any hints are appreciated...

Regards,
Marinos
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Old 04-18-2008, 11:04 AM
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Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> Marinos,
>
> what if you construct "apachebench & Co" free script and see if
> the issue still exists. There are could be many issues doesn't
> connected to postgresql and tsearch2.
>


Yes, the problem persists - I wrote a small perl script that forks 10
chils processes and executes the same queries in parallel without any
php/apachebench involved:

--- 8< ---
#!/usr/bin/perl
use DBI;
$n=10;
$nq=100;
$sql="select count(*) from fr_offer o, fr_merchant m where idxfti @@
to_tsquery('ranz & mc') and eur >= 70 and m.m_id=o.m_id;";

sub reaper { my $waitedpid = wait; $running--; $SIG{CHLD} = \&reaper; }
$SIG{CHLD} = \&reaper;

for $i (1..$n)
{
if (fork() > 0) { $running++; }
else
{
my
$dbh=DBI->connect('dbi:Pg:host=daedalus;dbname=<censored>', 'root','',{
AutoCommit => 1 }) || die "!db";
for my $j (1..$nq)
{
my $sth=$dbh->prepare($sql);
$r=$sth->execute() or print STDERR $dbh->errstr();
}
exit 0;
}
}
while ($running > 0)
{
sleep 1;
print "Running: $running\n";
}
--- >8 ---

Result (now with shared_buffers = 20000, hence less system and more user
time):

Cpu0 : 25.1% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 74.9% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Cpu1 : 18.3% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 81.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Cpu2 : 27.8% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 71.9% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Cpu3 : 23.5% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 75.9% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.3% si

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ WCHAN
COMMAND
7571 postgres 16 0 204m 62m 61m R 10.6 0.2 0:01.97 -
postmaste
7583 postgres 16 0 204m 62m 61m S 9.6 0.2 0:02.06 semtimedo
postmaste
7586 postgres 16 0 204m 62m 61m S 9.6 0.2 0:02.00 semtimedo
postmaste
7575 postgres 16 0 204m 62m 61m S 9.3 0.2 0:02.12 semtimedo
postmaste
7578 postgres 16 0 204m 62m 61m R 9.3 0.2 0:02.05 -
postmaste

i.e., virtually no difference. With 1000 queries and 10 in parallel, the
apachebench run takes 60.674 seconds and the perl script 59.392 seconds.

Regards,
Marinos
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Preisvergleich Internet Services AG
Obere Donaustraße 63/2, A-1020 Wien
Tel./Fax: (+431) 5811609-52/-55

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Do you have anything performing any updates or inserts to this table,
even if it does not update the gist column, even if it does not update
anything ?

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Old 04-18-2008, 11:04 AM
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Tom Lane wrote:

> "Marinos J. Yannikos" <mjy@geizhals.at> writes:
>> I can't seem to find out where the bottleneck is, but it doesn't seem to
>> be CPU or disk. "top" shows that postgres processes are frequently in
>> this state:

>
>> 6701 postgres 16 0 204m 58m 56m S 9.3 0.2 0:06.96 semtimedo
>> ^^^^^^^^^

>
> What's the platform exactly (hardware and OS)?
>


it should be 'semtimedop'


> regards, tom lane
>


Regards,
Oleg
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Old 04-18-2008, 11:04 AM
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Tom Lane schrieb:
> What's the platform exactly (hardware and OS)?


Hardware: http://www.appro.com/product/server_1142h.asp
- SCSI version, 2 x 146GB 10k rpm disks in software RAID-1
- 32GB RAM

OS: Linux 2.6.10-rc3, x86_64, debian GNU/Linux distribution

- CONFIG_K8_NUMA is currently turned off (no change, but now all CPUs
have ~25% load, previously one was 100% busy and the others idle)

- CONFIG_GART_IOMMU=y (but no change, tried both settings)
[other kernel options didn't seem to be relevant for tweaking at the
moment, mostly they're "safe defaults"]

The PostgreSQL data directory is on an ext2 filesystem.

Regards,
Marinos
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Preisvergleich Internet Services AG
Obere Donaustrasse 63, A-1020 Wien
Tel./Fax: (+431) 5811609-52/-55

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