Hi folks, I have been trying to connect my D1000 array with 4 disks to
my ultra 10. It does not see disks at OK prompt with probe-scsi or
show-disks commands.
Neither does format utility see any disks other than the internal
disk.
I know the terminator and cable connections are all fine. I see the
lights on disk array as I add disks to that.
I make sure I power my disk array first and then the ultra 10.
I tried the same with my ultra 2 and same issue! I have used the same
disk array like 6 months back for Veritas and all and never gave me
this problem.
I am running Solaris 9 on the both ultra 10 and ultra 2.
I have installed Veritas V.M but what to do when I can not see the
disks in the array at O.S level... any idea what could make the sun
box start seeing the disk array?
TIA

herc <whurram@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks, I have been trying to connect my D1000 array with 4 disks to
> my ultra 10. It does not see disks at OK prompt with probe-scsi or
> show-disks commands.

Are you using a HVD (High Voltage Differential) SCSI card or the
internal SE (Single Ended) SCSI connector? The D1000 has an HVD
interface and won't talk to anything else.

Jens

herc wrote:
> Hi folks, I have been trying to connect my D1000 array with 4 disks to
> my ultra 10. It does not see disks at OK prompt with probe-scsi or
> show-disks commands.
> Neither does format utility see any disks other than the internal
> disk.
> I know the terminator and cable connections are all fine. I see the
> lights on disk array as I add disks to that.
> I make sure I power my disk array first and then the ultra 10.
> I tried the same with my ultra 2 and same issue! I have used the same
> disk array like 6 months back for Veritas and all and never gave me
> this problem.
> I am running Solaris 9 on the both ultra 10 and ultra 2.
> I have installed Veritas V.M but what to do when I can not see the
> disks in the array at O.S level... any idea what could make the sun
> box start seeing the disk array?
> TIA
>

Something is DEAD! It could be your Host Bus Adapter (HBA), your
cable, your terminator, your disk array. . . .

Ummm forget about your HBA; it didn't work on two different systems
so, unless you were using the same HBA, that can't be at fault.

If you don't see the disks at OBP level; e.g. 'probe scsi' you have
a hardware problem somewhere!

Do you have anything else you can plug into that bus? If you do and it
works, you have exonerated the bus, terminator, etc. Oh, make sure that
you have ONE terminator at each end of the bus. If the last drive on
the bus is terminated and you have an external terminator you will
almost certainly have problems! Also check addressing. Two drives
jumpered to the same bus address can produce strange problems.

On Jun 20, 10:50 am, j.goe...@mobilcom.de wrote:
> herc <whur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi folks, I have been trying to connect myD1000array with 4 disks to
> > my ultra 10. It does not see disks at OK prompt with probe-scsi or
> > show-disks commands.
>
> Are you using a HVD (High Voltage Differential) SCSI card or the
> internal SE (Single Ended) SCSI connector? TheD1000has an HVD
> interface and won't talk to anything else.
>
> Jens

Hi, I am using a PCI Symbios8802 HVD card with dual SE SCSI interfaces
with the cable that came along with card. I have used similar cables
and cards on other box lately ...they all worked the first time.

When I run probe-scsi-all at OBP, it displays: BUS FAULT

Where could be the problem?

On Jun 20, 11:13 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> herc wrote:
> > Hi folks, I have been trying to connect myD1000array with 4 disks to
> > my ultra 10. It does not see disks at OK prompt with probe-scsi or
> > show-disks commands.
> > Neither does format utility see any disks other than the internal
> > disk.
> > I know the terminator and cable connections are all fine. I see the
> > lights on disk array as I add disks to that.
> > I make sure I power my disk array first and then the ultra 10.
> > I tried the same with my ultra 2 and same issue! I have used the same
> > disk array like 6 months back for Veritas and all and never gave me
> > this problem.
> > I am running Solaris 9 on the both ultra 10 and ultra 2.
> > I have installed Veritas V.M but what to do when I can not see the
> > disks in the array at O.S level... any idea what could make the sun
> > box start seeing the disk array?
> > TIA
>
> Something is DEAD! It could be your Host Bus Adapter (HBA), your
> cable, your terminator, your disk array. . . .
>
> Ummm forget about your HBA; it didn't work on two different systems
> so, unless you were using the same HBA, that can't be at fault.
>
> If you don't see the disks at OBP level; e.g. 'probe scsi' you have
> a hardware problem somewhere!
>
> Do you have anything else you can plug into that bus? If you do and it
> works, you have exonerated the bus, terminator, etc. Oh, make sure that
> you have ONE terminator at each end of the bus. If the last drive on
> the bus is terminated and you have an external terminator you will
> almost certainly have problems! Also check addressing. Two drives
> jumpered to the same bus address can produce strange problems.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On probe-scsi-all, it displays: BUS FAULT.

What I have done is I have connected my Ultra10 with one scsi cable at
extreme end and have placed a terminator right next to that. The
terminator has a green light glowing (does that mean termination is
okay?).

I would apprecite if some one could answer the following for me:

How do I know if the last drive is TERMINATED, because I am using a
terminator?

How can I check addressing??? How do I know if two drives are jumpered
to the same bus address?

TIA

herc <whurram@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I am using a PCI Symbios8802 HVD card with dual SE SCSI interfaces
> with the cable that came along with card. I have used similar cables
> and cards on other box lately ...they all worked the first time.

Are you sure it's HVD and not SE? Everything you write point to the
interface.

Jens

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, herc wrote:

> Hi, I am using a PCI Symbios8802 HVD card with dual SE SCSI interfaces

An HVD card doesn't have dual SE interfaces; they're one or the other.
The D1000 *requires* an HVD HBA; SE or LVD won't work at all.

> When I run probe-scsi-all at OBP, it displays: BUS FAULT

Check that the card is seated properly and try the probe-scsi-all
after a power cycle.

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On Jun 20, 12:12 pm, Rich Teer <rich.t...@rite-group.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, herc wrote:
> > Hi, I am using a PCI Symbios8802 HVD card with dual SE SCSI interfaces
>
> An HVD card doesn't have dual SE interfaces; they're one or the other.
> The D1000 *requires* an HVD HBA; SE or LVD won't work at all.
>
> > When I run probe-scsi-all at OBP, it displays: BUS FAULT
>
> Check that the card is seated properly and try the probe-scsi-all
> after a power cycle.
>
> --
> Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member
>
> CEO,
> My Online Home Inventory
>
> Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
> URLs:http://www.rite-group.com/rich
> http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.com

How can I make sure that Solaris is able to talk to the SCSI card?
is boot -r at OBP good enough to make Solaris load the Symbios drives.
In other words, how can I determine that my SCI card is not dead?
TIA

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, herc wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, I am using a PCI Symbios8802 HVD card with dual SE SCSI interfaces
>
>
> An HVD card doesn't have dual SE interfaces; they're one or the other.
> The D1000 *requires* an HVD HBA; SE or LVD won't work at all.
>
Not only do HVD and SE or LVD not work together but if you connect them
and power up both ends you are almost certainly going to damage the
hardware somehow. I'm not certain just where you look for the smoke and
flames and it's not something you want to learn by experience!
Repairs/replacements are EXPENSIVE!!!!

Using the same connectors for the different flavors (SE, LVD, & HVD) was
one of those REALLY BAD ideas! There's always someone who will
thoughtlessly plug one into the other; I've even seen an SE do it!

Differential is great when you need a long cable run but it DOES NOT MIX
with SE. LVD is newer than HVD and I belive that it will mix with SE
but I'm not sure it's a good idea.

herc wrote:
> On Jun 20, 11:13 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>herc wrote:
>>
>>>Hi folks, I have been trying to connect myD1000array with 4 disks to
>>>my ultra 10. It does not see disks at OK prompt with probe-scsi or
>>>show-disks commands.
>>>Neither does format utility see any disks other than the internal
>>>disk.
>>>I know the terminator and cable connections are all fine. I see the
>>>lights on disk array as I add disks to that.
>>>I make sure I power my disk array first and then the ultra 10.
>>>I tried the same with my ultra 2 and same issue! I have used the same
>>>disk array like 6 months back for Veritas and all and never gave me
>>>this problem.
>>>I am running Solaris 9 on the both ultra 10 and ultra 2.
>>>I have installed Veritas V.M but what to do when I can not see the
>>>disks in the array at O.S level... any idea what could make the sun
>>>box start seeing the disk array?
>>>TIA
>>
>>Something is DEAD! It could be your Host Bus Adapter (HBA), your
>>cable, your terminator, your disk array. . . .
>>
>> Ummm forget about your HBA; it didn't work on two different systems
>>so, unless you were using the same HBA, that can't be at fault.
>>
>>If you don't see the disks at OBP level; e.g. 'probe scsi' you have
>>a hardware problem somewhere!
>>
>>Do you have anything else you can plug into that bus? If you do and it
>>works, you have exonerated the bus, terminator, etc. Oh, make sure that
>>you have ONE terminator at each end of the bus. If the last drive on
>>the bus is terminated and you have an external terminator you will
>>almost certainly have problems! Also check addressing. Two drives
>>jumpered to the same bus address can produce strange problems.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> On probe-scsi-all, it displays: BUS FAULT.
>
> What I have done is I have connected my Ultra10 with one scsi cable at
> extreme end and have placed a terminator right next to that. The
> terminator has a green light glowing (does that mean termination is
> okay?).
>
> I would apprecite if some one could answer the following for me:
>
> How do I know if the last drive is TERMINATED, because I am using a
> terminator?

Different manufacturers have done different things over the years.
Usually there's either a resistor pack on the drive's circuit board that
can be plugged in or not or there is a jumper that enables termination
in one position and disables it in another. If you play with the
hardware, you are supposed to know or you're supposed to pay someone who
does know to play with the hardware. The resistor pack is usually a
SIP (Single Inline Package) with ten or more pins, more for wide SCSI.

The instruction manuals and/or data sheets for the hardware should
mention this stuff somewhere. You may need the FE/CE documentation
since that's who normally does this sort of thing.

>
> How can I check addressing??? How do I know if two drives are jumpered
> to the same bus address?

There are typically three berg jumpers (those little plastic widgets
that fit over two pins) used to set the SCSI device address. In some
hardware the backplane slot you install the drive in determines the
device address. Do your drives just plug into a backplane or do you
attach a ribbon cable and a power cable to each drive?

FWIW, I've never seen a D1000; my hardware background is largely DEC.
As a Sun/Solaris hobbyist, I'm afraid a D1000 is probably out of my
price range!