Hello All (I hate that intro as much as you do...),

Having just dropped s10_44 (Solaris Express 11/03) successfully onto an
Ultra 1, and my appetite having been more than whetted by Gavin M in a
previous thread; is the Solaris Dynamic Tracing Guide available to Joe
Public FOC, or is that 99 bucks the bottom line? Manpages for dtrace,
libdtrace and dtrace(7D) are all pathetic... dtrace -? gives the "most"
info, and docs.sun.com has not heard of it :-(

TIA,


Beardy.

In article <2yCtb.8949$lm1.62902@wards.force9.net>, Beardy wrote:
>Hello All (I hate that intro as much as you do...),
>
>Having just dropped s10_44 (Solaris Express 11/03) successfully onto an
>Ultra 1, and my appetite having been more than whetted by Gavin M in a
>previous thread; is the Solaris Dynamic Tracing Guide available to Joe
>Public FOC, or is that 99 bucks the bottom line?

If you haven't already, check out my previous post on the subject in
comp.unix.solaris. The Dynamic Tracing Guide is available publicly here:

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/dtrace/

There's a link to "Download the Solaris Dynamic Tracing Guide" there; it's
in PDF, and that should be more than enough documentation to get you started.

> Manpages for dtrace, libdtrace and dtrace(7D) are all pathetic...

Apologies for that -- the 11/03 Solaris Express didn't have the right
manpage. That's been rectified, and should show up properly in the 12/03
cut of Solaris Express.

>dtrace -? gives the "most" info, and docs.sun.com has not heard of it :-(

We're still working on docs.sun.com. If you go to docs.sun.com and then
Product/Software/Solaris/Solaris Express, you'll see docs for the
Solaris Express Collection. Under there, there's a link to the Dynamic
Tracing Guide. That's the good news. The bad news is that it's "locked"
at the moment. If you pay the 99 bucks, you should get a password to
access these docs. For whatever it's worth, the doc available from the
BigAdmin site is exactly the same as the docs.sun.com doc -- but we
obviously want to provide something that's easily searchable, browsable
via the web, etc. It obviously makes no sense for this doc to only be
available for those who pay the 99 bucks when we're giving it away on
BigAdmin; we hope to have this available publicly on docs.sun.com soon...

- Bryan

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Bryan Cantrill, Solaris Kernel Development. bmc@eng.sun.com (650) 786-3652

Bryan Cantrill wrote:
> In article <2yCtb.8949$lm1.62902@wards.force9.net>, Beardy wrote:
>
>>Hello All (I hate that intro as much as you do...),
>>
>>Having just dropped s10_44 (Solaris Express 11/03) successfully onto an
>>Ultra 1, and my appetite having been more than whetted by Gavin M in a
>>previous thread; is the Solaris Dynamic Tracing Guide available to Joe
>>Public FOC, or is that 99 bucks the bottom line?
>
>
> If you haven't already, check out my previous post on the subject in
> comp.unix.solaris. The Dynamic Tracing Guide is available publicly here:
>
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/dtrace/
>
> There's a link to "Download the Solaris Dynamic Tracing Guide" there; it's
> in PDF, and that should be more than enough documentation to get you started.
>

Got it. Will check the previous post also. Thanks.

>
>>Manpages for dtrace, libdtrace and dtrace(7D) are all pathetic...
>
>
> Apologies for that -- the 11/03 Solaris Express didn't have the right
> manpage. That's been rectified, and should show up properly in the 12/03
> cut of Solaris Express.
>

Docs are always the toughest thing to get "right" ;^)

>
>>dtrace -? gives the "most" info, and docs.sun.com has not heard of it :-(
>
>
> We're still working on docs.sun.com. If you go to docs.sun.com and then
> Product/Software/Solaris/Solaris Express, you'll see docs for the
> Solaris Express Collection. Under there, there's a link to the Dynamic
> Tracing Guide. That's the good news. The bad news is that it's "locked"
> at the moment. If you pay the 99 bucks, you should get a password to
> access these docs. For whatever it's worth, the doc available from the
> BigAdmin site is exactly the same as the docs.sun.com doc -- but we
> obviously want to provide something that's easily searchable, browsable
> via the web, etc. It obviously makes no sense for this doc to only be
> available for those who pay the 99 bucks when we're giving it away on
> BigAdmin; we hope to have this available publicly on docs.sun.com soon...
>

Cool. Many thanks for all of this Bryan. Looking forward to 12/03 and
Kevlar ;^)


Beardy.

In article <MdDtb.8952$lm1.63140@wards.force9.net>, Beardy wrote:
>Bryan Cantrill wrote:
>> If you haven't already, check out my previous post on the subject in
>> comp.unix.solaris. The Dynamic Tracing Guide is available publicly here:
>>
>> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/dtrace/
>>
>> There's a link to "Download the Solaris Dynamic Tracing Guide" there; it's
>> in PDF, and that should be more than enough documentation to get you started.
>>
>
>Got it. Will check the previous post also. Thanks.
>
>> Apologies for that -- the 11/03 Solaris Express didn't have the right
>> manpage. That's been rectified, and should show up properly in the 12/03
>> cut of Solaris Express.
>>
>
>Docs are always the toughest thing to get "right" ;^)

True -- but knowing this, we actually put quite a bit of effort into the
DTrace documentation: some 300 pages of DTrace documentation await you
at the BigAdmin site...

>Cool. Many thanks for all of this Bryan. Looking forward to 12/03 and
>Kevlar ;^)

Yeah, zones are very, very cool. And that's not even all that we have on
tap for you in this release. We've been very busy; stay tuned... (And in
the meantime, enjoy DTrace!)

- Bryan

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Bryan Cantrill, Solaris Kernel Development. bmc@eng.sun.com (650) 786-3652

Bryan Cantrill wrote:

[Carved]
>
> True -- but knowing this, we actually put quite a bit of effort into the
> DTrace documentation: some 300 pages of DTrace documentation await you
> at the BigAdmin site...
>


294 cool pages... I especially like the Glossary that says that DTrace
is "A dynamic tracing facility that provides concise answers to
arbitrary questions". So if I ask DTrace "is it OK is I go to the bar
for a few drinks with the guys?", I get the answer "Not if you want
dinner"; in which case it should be renamed DWife ;-)

>
>>Cool. Many thanks for all of this Bryan. Looking forward to 12/03 and
>>Kevlar ;^)
>
>
> Yeah, zones are very, very cool. And that's not even all that we have on
> tap for you in this release. We've been very busy; stay tuned... (And in
> the meantime, enjoy DTrace!)
>

Will do. Stuck on your frequency, and will feed back to you and MWS via
the forum.

Thanks again.


Beardy.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Beardy wrote:

> 294 cool pages... I especially like the Glossary that says that DTrace
> is "A dynamic tracing facility that provides concise answers to
> arbitrary questions". So if I ask DTrace "is it OK is I go to the bar
> for a few drinks with the guys?", I get the answer "Not if you want
> dinner"; in which case it should be renamed DWife ;-)

Perhaps one of the Solaris kernel team members has a wife called
Tracey? :-)

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Rich Teer wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Beardy wrote:
>
>
>>294 cool pages... I especially like the Glossary that says that DTrace
>>is "A dynamic tracing facility that provides concise answers to
>>arbitrary questions". So if I ask DTrace "is it OK is I go to the bar
>>for a few drinks with the guys?", I get the answer "Not if you want
>>dinner"; in which case it should be renamed DWife ;-)
>
>
> Perhaps one of the Solaris kernel team members has a wife called
> Tracey? :-)
>

Good job that "Tox" is not a girl's nickname... ;-)

In comp.sys.sun.admin Bryan Cantrill <bmc@kiowa.eng.sun.com> wrote:
> Yeah, zones are very, very cool. And that's not even all that we have on
> tap for you in this release. We've been very busy; stay tuned... (And in
> the meantime, enjoy DTrace!)
>

btw: Where can i find any additional info about Janus, ZFS before it will
be integrated in Solaris Express?

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Robert Milkowski <rmilkowski-NO-SPAM@wp-sa.pl> writes in comp.unix.solaris:
|btw: Where can i find any additional info about Janus, ZFS before it will

Some papers on the ZFS research project have been published in the
proceedings of the ACM Workshop on Algorithms and Architectures for
Self-Managing Systems - search for the Sun entries on the web page at
http://tesla.hpl.hp.com/self-manage03/

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