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Is it possible to have a system (running netbackup, the veritas client) and
collect data from another server, and push all the data to the veritas
backup server.

Le Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:18:03 -0600, LHradowy a écrit*:

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> Is it possible to have a system (running netbackup, the veritas client) and
> collect data from another server, and push all the data to the veritas
> backup server.

It may be somewhat possible, but don't expect to be able to restore
properly a complete system this way though...

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Sutor ne ultra Crepidam.

"Emmanuel Florac" <eflorac@imaginet.fr> wrote in message
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> Le Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:18:03 -0600, LHradowy a écrit :
>
> >
> > Is it possible to have a system (running netbackup, the veritas client)
and
> > collect data from another server, and push all the data to the veritas
> > backup server.
>
> It may be somewhat possible, but don't expect to be able to restore
> properly a complete system this way though...
>
> --
> Sutor ne ultra Crepidam.

I have tested, and it does work, with each server having its own tarred
file. I need to know about the legalities...

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:18:03 -0600, LHradowy wrote:

> Is it possible to have a system (running netbackup, the veritas client) and
> collect data from another server, and push all the data to the veritas
> backup server.

Sounds like a pretty standard backup scheme to me, other than that you're
not running a backup client on The Other Server.

Saundo

--
Chris "Saundo" Saunderson saundo@earthlink.net
Unix/CCNA/CCDA Guy Powered by Linux and the Orb.

LHradowy wrote:
> "Emmanuel Florac" <eflorac@imaginet.fr> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.01.06.21.01.23.669444@imaginet.fr...
>>Le Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:18:03 -0600, LHradowy a écrit :

>>>Is it possible to have a system (running netbackup, the veritas client) and
>>>collect data from another server, and push all the data to the veritas
>>>backup server.

>>It may be somewhat possible, but don't expect to be able to restore
>>properly a complete system this way though...

> I have tested, and it does work, with each server having its own tarred
> file. I need to know about the legalities...

Sounds like you are copying data from a non-client to a client then
using veritas to copy that. There should be no problem with that,
it's within the licensing restrictions. We used to do it a simpler
way - using NFS. Veritas will back up NFS mounted partitions on
clients (or directly mounted on the server). Veritas sell you
a license which restricts the number of clients you run their
software on - there's no limit to how many machines then have NFS
directories mounted on those clients which are all backed up.

Backup software companies are one of the few catagories of
companies who get away with gouging the customers. You pay
more for running the software on a UNIX box (as they expect
you'll be backing up more), you pay more to back up to a larger
jukebox (or to a bigger version of the same jukebox), you pay
more for each client you want to back up etc. etc. I've
wondered for a while how they get away with it but they still
seem to.

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Phillip Fayers School of Psychology, Cardiff University
Fayers@cf.ac.uk http://www.astro.cf.ac.uk/pub/Phillip.Fayers/
Tel: +44 (0)29 2087 9337 Attribute these comments to me not UWC.

Yea, you are charged per machine the veritas client is on, so if your
master server is only ever connecting to 1 netbackup client, regardless
of how the data got there, whether it's NFS or local, etc... doesn't
really matter.

"LHradowy" <laura.hradowy@NOSPAM.mts.caaaaa> wrote in message
news:whfDd.9491$Ka6.66506@news1.mts.net...
> Is it possible to have a system (running netbackup, the veritas client)
and
> collect data from another server, and push all the data to the veritas
> backup server.
>
>

Thank you for all your input. Now I need to make my pitch...
Unfortunately I can not go by word of mouth and require some hard facts.
Does anyone have any documentation regarding the client legalities. I
understand if the papers make no mention to what I want to do, but as long
as it does not mention this I believe I am in the right.

Thanks in advanced.
Laura

In article <rFxDd.9809$Ka6.68384@news1.mts.net>,
"LHradowy" <laura.hradowy@NOSPAM.mts.caaaaa> wrote:

> "LHradowy" <laura.hradowy@NOSPAM.mts.caaaaa> wrote in message
> news:whfDd.9491$Ka6.66506@news1.mts.net...
> > Is it possible to have a system (running netbackup, the veritas client)
> and
> > collect data from another server, and push all the data to the veritas
> > backup server.
> >
> >
>
> Thank you for all your input. Now I need to make my pitch...
> Unfortunately I can not go by word of mouth and require some hard facts.
> Does anyone have any documentation regarding the client legalities. I
> understand if the papers make no mention to what I want to do, but as long
> as it does not mention this I believe I am in the right.
>
> Thanks in advanced.
> Laura

For that, I think, you'll need to contact a lawyer. Bring the Veritas
licensing agreement with you along with your checkbook. That's the only
way you'll get anything of value that's not "word of mouth".

Then again, the judge in the resulting litigation just might side with
Veritas. You won't know until the end.

Your desire for "facts" when it comes to "legalities" seems to be an
oxymoron (at least to me).

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DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...

Le Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:40:40 +0000, Phillip Fayers a écrit*:

> I've
> wondered for a while how they get away with it but they still
> seem to.

Maybe it's time for you to give Bacula a try

--
Le travail est la malédiction des classes qui boivent.
O. Wilde.

How about contacting a sale rep? This is there job after all. If your
not looking for word of mouth info then usenet is not the place you
should be looking, after all, this is all word of mouth.