"Andrea Sansottera" <andrea.sansottera@fastwebnet.it> writes:

> "Colin B." <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote in message
> news:428129e5@news.nucleus.com...
> > But I understand the feeling. One of the core features of Unix has always
> > been "everything in plaintext, wherever possible." Seeing the horrible
> > disaster that was the Windows Registry and similarly the AIX ODM (which I
> > understand is at least usable now), convinced me even more that this was a
> > good and necessary thing.
>
> Isn't SMF actually based on XML description files? (Correct me if I'm
> wrong).
>
> XML *is* just plain text. With the advantage that it is a structured
> document so it's easy to understand and manage by both a human and a
> machine.

And with the disadvantage that it looks like plain text but is not
necessarily comprehensible and editable as plain text. You have to
understand the XML structure (which is itself not necessarily human
readable, understanble or in a reasonably normal form) in addition to
the data you want to manipulate. In fact once you get beyond trivial
examples it is annoying beyond belief to edit by hand- for example, just
have a whack at setting up & configuring services in OS X where you have
to fool around with their XML editor to set up config files- its ghastly
compared to a simple text file.

Which is not to say I don't like smf- I expected it to suck having had a
bad time with OS X which also tries to be clever- but smf is really
pretty nice to work with once you get used to it. OTOH I haven't had
the database self-destruct yet, I wonder about triaging a system with a
blown up smf...

Gregm

Rodrick Brown wrote:

> Right off the bat after installing solaris 10 the first thing I noticed was
> the insanly fast boot time, because services can now run in parrallel, boot
> time has increased greatly.
^^^^^^^^^

ITYM "decreased".


--
Tony Walton

As I was poking around,
I did notice a script called
/lib/svc/bin/restore_repository
which is supposed to do it for you!

There is no man page for this script.

and the script references a sun browser page
for more user information - which I have not looked at yet.

The Basic Admin manual only lightly addresses services.

Is there a thorough manual out there somewhere?

..

>>Overpriced, for a statement that bald. :-)

Hey! I resemble that remark. At least the bald part. 8^)

<snip>
>>One of the core features of Unix has always
>>been "everything in plaintext, wherever possible" >>Seeing the
horrible disaster that was the >>Windows Registry and similarly the AIX
ODM >>(which I understand is at least usable now), >>convinced me even
more that this was a good and >>necessary thing.
<snip>
I once was a Windows sysadmin. Hopefully, only once.... One of the
features that so attracted me to UNIX is the "plaintext" files.

Heh!

One improvement they could
have made was to call it something
besides "services" so that when
I do a web search I can get back
something meaningful.

..

That is reassuring. Thanks.

greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com writes:

>One improvement they could
>have made was to call it something
>besides "services" so that when
>I do a web search I can get back
>something meaningful.

It's called "smf". It's not called "services".

Casper
--
Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

kirkgbr@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >>Overpriced, for a statement that bald. :-)
>
> Hey! I resemble that remark. At least the bald part. 8^)

Then don't you mean:

~(8^)

???? ;^)

>
> <snip>
> >>One of the core features of Unix has always
> >>been "everything in plaintext, wherever possible" >>Seeing the
> horrible disaster that was the >>Windows Registry and similarly the AIX
> ODM >>(which I understand is at least usable now), >>convinced me even
> more that this was a good and >>necessary thing.
> <snip>
> I once was a Windows sysadmin. Hopefully, only once....

Kind of like "Johnny Dangerously" ?

> One of the
> features that so attracted me to UNIX is the "plaintext" files.

You might mean everything UNIX being a file, or thereabouts.

You are right and that
is much more useful.
Thanks.