How is Sun delivering more value by integrating critical features such
as avaliability, manageability, security, network and Web services into
every system?

This whitepaper describes how we are:
- Offering Solaris OS for both UltraSPARC and x86-based systems
- embracing Linux as an open standard and offering it for x86-based systems
- adding Sun ONE middleware products to both Solaris and Linux platforms
- providing worldwide support and services
- creating scalable platforms for network computing with freedom of
choice built in

You can view this and other whitepapers at:
http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris....html?ssobm=ng

<posted & mailed>

James Cham wrote:
> How is Sun delivering more value

Mr. Cham,

.... quit spamming the newsgroups or I will be forced to
file a formal complaint. Pass this on to your colleagues
as well.
..
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, mjt wrote:

> James Cham wrote:
> > How is Sun delivering more value
>
> Mr. Cham,
>
> ... quit spamming the newsgroups or I will be forced to
> file a formal complaint. Pass this on to your colleagues
> as well.

Why? Sun's announcements in these groups are on topic,
and are not so frequent as to be more than a minor
irritant.

Multiple message, every day, would be a different case,
of course.

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Rich Teer wrote:

> Multiple message, every day, would be a different case,
> of course.

.... it's heading in that direction. i frequent a number of
newsgroups beyond this one and the posts are increasing
..
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:00:57 GMT,
mjt <mjtobler@removethis_consultant.com>, in
<Zzkfb.150$2L4.117814287@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m> wrote:

+> ... quit spamming the newsgroups or I will be forced to
+> file a formal complaint.

Oh, please do. I'm sure abuse@sun.com could use a good laugh. Me? I've
already had a good chuckle...

Hint: it's on target for the groups posted, it's posted to just 5
groups, and it's posted only once. Thus a BI=2.4.

HTH. HAND.

James
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow
isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.

mjt <mjtobler@removethis_consultant.com> writes:

> Rich Teer wrote:
>
> > Multiple message, every day, would be a different case,
> > of course.
>
> ... it's heading in that direction. i frequent a number of
> newsgroups beyond this one and the posts are increasing

It hasn't bothered me. Maybe the topicality in comp.os.linux
is dubious, but it's appropriate for the sun groups.

-SEan

mjt wrote:

> ... quit spamming the newsgroups or I will be forced to
> file a formal complaint. Pass this on to your colleagues
> as well.

Did You had a bad day? I can't see how this posting can be considered as
SPAM, and it's not off-Topic on Sun newsgroups. If You don't like it You are
free to filter...

Benjamin

In comp.sys.sun.admin mjt <mjtobler@removethis_consultant.com> wrote:
>> How is Sun delivering more value
>
> Mr. Cham,
>
> ... quit spamming the newsgroups or I will be forced to
> file a formal complaint. Pass this on to your colleagues
> as well.

His colleagues?

Does this include me, Casper, Alan, Tony and all the other Sun employees
who post thousands and thousands of messages to various newsgroups each
year - almost every one a response to someone problem or question?

The occasional post pointing to a whitepaper on Sun's website which will
be of use to many of the readers of this newsgroup most certainly isn't
SPAM.

Scott.

As a point of interest, I think saying that Solaris x86 and Linux (x86)
have the same number of commercial applications is a bit of a stretch
(the paper lists 1,000 for both). I don't know if the number should be
higher or lower for Linux, but I would make the supposition that
certainly the number for Linux should be significantly higher than
Solaris x86.

I think it's yet another example of Sun both promoting (embracing) and
deriding Linux in the same breath.

And for my $.02, I think these posts are on-topic, but don't be
surprised if they initiate responses such as mine.

Cheers,

Tony

James Cham wrote:
> How is Sun delivering more value by integrating critical features such
> as avaliability, manageability, security, network and Web services into
> every system?
>
> This whitepaper describes how we are:
> - Offering Solaris OS for both UltraSPARC and x86-based systems
> - embracing Linux as an open standard and offering it for x86-based systems
> - adding Sun ONE middleware products to both Solaris and Linux platforms
> - providing worldwide support and services
> - creating scalable platforms for network computing with freedom of
> choice built in
>
> You can view this and other whitepapers at:
> http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris....html?ssobm=ng
>

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 13:36:28 GMT, tony_NOSPAM_AT@vegan.net wrote:
>As a point of interest, I think saying that Solaris x86 and Linux (x86)
>have the same number of commercial applications is a bit of a stretch
>(the paper lists 1,000 for both). I don't know if the number should be
>higher or lower for Linux, but I would make the supposition that
>certainly the number for Linux should be significantly higher than
>Solaris x86.

Funny, I would "suppose" it would be the other way around.
Solaris x86 has been a commercially targetted OS for longer than linux has
been. They are approximately the same age in a lot of ways, but linux
was a pure "hobbyist's OS" for at least half that time.
Now lets see some numbers from you, if you wish to refute my view.



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