I just started to download Solaris 10. I got to the part about the
license agreement and discovered that I could not read or print the
license agreement!!!! (I'm using Microsoft IE v6.0) (Netscape v7.2
doesn't work either) The lines do not wrap to screen width. The only
way to read it is to pan back and forth. The print preview has the same
problem. I sure as hell cannot agree to something I cannot read or print.

Getting it right is not rocket science! Neither is noticing that you
have screwed up!

I'm going to decline the agreement and give up. Sun does not lose any
revenue directly but, since I won't have Solaris 10, I won't need
support. . . .

Sun looks more and more like a company in complete disarray. . . .

and their support of JES stack is more or less a joke.

In article <mNednbgRidC3-N_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com>,
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> I just started to download Solaris 10. I got to the part about the
> license agreement and discovered that I could not read or print the
> license agreement!!!! (I'm using Microsoft IE v6.0) (Netscape v7.2
> doesn't work either) The lines do not wrap to screen width. The only
> way to read it is to pan back and forth. The print preview has the same
> problem. I sure as hell cannot agree to something I cannot read or print.
>
> Getting it right is not rocket science! Neither is noticing that you
> have screwed up!
>
> I'm going to decline the agreement and give up. Sun does not lose any
> revenue directly but, since I won't have Solaris 10, I won't need
> support. . . .
>
> Sun looks more and more like a company in complete disarray. . . .

Sun is a company that appears to be doing everything in their power to
ensure their eventual demise.

Josh

Josh McKee wrote:
> In article <mNednbgRidC3-N_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com>,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I just started to download Solaris 10. I got to the part about the
>>license agreement and discovered that I could not read or print the
>>license agreement!!!! (I'm using Microsoft IE v6.0) (Netscape v7.2
>>doesn't work either) The lines do not wrap to screen width. The only
>>way to read it is to pan back and forth. The print preview has the same
>>problem. I sure as hell cannot agree to something I cannot read or print.
>>
>>Getting it right is not rocket science! Neither is noticing that you
>>have screwed up!
>>
>>I'm going to decline the agreement and give up. Sun does not lose any
>>revenue directly but, since I won't have Solaris 10, I won't need
>>support. . . .
>>
>>Sun looks more and more like a company in complete disarray. . . .
>
>
> Sun is a company that appears to be doing everything in their power to
> ensure their eventual demise.
>
> Josh

Well, maybe not everything, but a company that can't keep its web
servers running is going to have trouble selling their systems for use
as web servers.

A company that can't make its technical support work right is going to
have problems selling support.

Does Sun sell anything but systems and support?

Did Sun, perhaps, lose a lot of its good people and keep the dregs?

I, too, downloaded Solaris 10. After reading all kinds of negative opinions
about it, I refuse to install it. I surf in these groups with the hope that,
perhaps someday, I'd find some positive news about this OS that will
motivate me to install it. In the meantime, I will not hold my breath.


"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:mNednbgRidC3-N_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>I just started to download Solaris 10. I got to the part about the license
>agreement and discovered that I could not read or print the license
>agreement!!!! (I'm using Microsoft IE v6.0) (Netscape v7.2 doesn't work
>either) The lines do not wrap to screen width. The only way to read it is
>to pan back and forth. The print preview has the same problem. I sure as
>hell cannot agree to something I cannot read or print.
>
> Getting it right is not rocket science! Neither is noticing that you have
> screwed up!
>
> I'm going to decline the agreement and give up. Sun does not lose any
> revenue directly but, since I won't have Solaris 10, I won't need support.
> . . .
>
> Sun looks more and more like a company in complete disarray. . . .

In article <pKv0g.92959$9I5.61205@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>,
"Jasper" <spammers_suck@nospam.net> wrote:

> I, too, downloaded Solaris 10. After reading all kinds of negative opinions
> about it, I refuse to install it. I surf in these groups with the hope that,
> perhaps someday, I'd find some positive news about this OS that will
> motivate me to install it. In the meantime, I will not hold my breath.

What are the negative things that you've heard?

Josh

Josh McKee wrote:

> In article <mNednbgRidC3-N_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com>,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I just started to download Solaris 10. I got to the part about the
>>license agreement and discovered that I could not read or print the
>>license agreement!!!! (I'm using Microsoft IE v6.0) (Netscape v7.2
>>doesn't work either) The lines do not wrap to screen width. The only
>>way to read it is to pan back and forth. The print preview has the same
>>problem. I sure as hell cannot agree to something I cannot read or print.
>>
>>Getting it right is not rocket science! Neither is noticing that you
>>have screwed up!
>>
>>I'm going to decline the agreement and give up. Sun does not lose any
>>revenue directly but, since I won't have Solaris 10, I won't need
>>support. . . .
>>
>>Sun looks more and more like a company in complete disarray. . . .
>
>
> Sun is a company that appears to be doing everything in their power to
> ensure their eventual demise.
>
> Josh
It sure seems that way. I was going to order some "Smart Cards" a few
days ago from their web site. I only needed a few, but decided to go
ahead anyway and order their minimum quantity for about a hundred bucks.
That is, until I learned that shipping (they must weigh about a pound)
would be another 30 bucks. 30% for shipping! On something for which
actual shipping costs are probably about 5 bucks! What's up with that?

BTW, the original poster can accomplish what he needs by selecting and
cutting the agreement and pasting it into Notepad or any word processor.
At least, that's what I did. That also makes it searchable.

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Jasper wrote:
> I, too, downloaded Solaris 10. After reading all kinds of negative opinions
> about it, I refuse to install it.

That is your choice, but it is a good operating system.

There are some very helpful people here who know what they are doing -
not the self-styled "experts" that you find on the windows related
newsgroups that have not got a clue. If

1) You have a problem with Solaris and you describe it properly.

2) You make an effort to try to resolve it yourself.

3) Ask on here

you are very likely to get a solution in quite a short space of time.

I use Solaris day-in-day-out and naturally I have hit the occasional
problem but I've never had a problem that can't be resolved or worked
around in some way. I can't say the same for Linux or Windoze.

> I surf in these groups with the hope that,
> perhaps someday, I'd find some positive news about this OS that will
> motivate me to install it. In the meantime, I will not hold my breath.

If you are going to take a very negative attitude, then perhaps it is
best you don't install it. If you take that attitude you will probably
have problems and if you make posts slagging off the OS with no
objective real basis, you are unlikely to get much help.


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In article <4442ad8d@212.67.96.135>,
"Dave (from the UK)"
<see-my-signature@southminster-branch-line.org.uk> wrote:

> Jasper wrote:
> > I, too, downloaded Solaris 10. After reading all kinds of negative opinions
> > about it, I refuse to install it.
>
> That is your choice, but it is a good operating system.
>
> There are some very helpful people here who know what they are doing -
> not the self-styled "experts" that you find on the windows related
> newsgroups that have not got a clue. If
>
> 1) You have a problem with Solaris and you describe it properly.
>
> 2) You make an effort to try to resolve it yourself.
>
> 3) Ask on here
>
> you are very likely to get a solution in quite a short space of time.
>
> I use Solaris day-in-day-out and naturally I have hit the occasional
> problem but I've never had a problem that can't be resolved or worked
> around in some way. I can't say the same for Linux or Windoze.

Perhaps your problems with Linux and Windows (your spelling speaks
volumes regarding your objectivity) are the result of the self-styled
"experts" that you referred to earlier?

Josh

On 2006-04-16, Jasper <spammers_suck@nospam.net> wrote:

> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:mNednbgRidC3-N_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>>I just started to download Solaris 10. I got to the part about the license
>>agreement and discovered that I could not read or print the license
>>agreement!!!! (I'm using Microsoft IE v6.0) (Netscape v7.2 doesn't work
>>either) The lines do not wrap to screen width. The only way to read it is
>>to pan back and forth. The print preview has the same problem. I sure as
>>hell cannot agree to something I cannot read or print.
>>
>> Getting it right is not rocket science! Neither is noticing that you have
>> screwed up!
>>
>> I'm going to decline the agreement and give up. Sun does not lose any
>> revenue directly but, since I won't have Solaris 10, I won't need support.
>> . . .
>>
>> Sun looks more and more like a company in complete disarray. . . .
>
> I, too, downloaded Solaris 10. After reading all kinds of negative opinions
> about it, I refuse to install it. I surf in these groups with the hope that,
> perhaps someday, I'd find some positive news about this OS that will
> motivate me to install it. In the meantime, I will not hold my breath.

Anyone who relies on Usenet for opinion is an idiot. Anyone who
top posts is an idiot.

I leave the conclusion as an exercise for the reader.

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