I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB keyboard?

Does anyone know the difference between the keyboards from different
countries (US, UK, France etc)? Are there DIP switches inside which
makes the keys produce a different character? Or some other way?

Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
don't want to shut the machine down.

US keyboards usually lacks disp-switches. Other country specific
keyboards usually have switches.

The type-6 USB keyboards have a small latch on the vertical surface
right above the Num Lock LED. My US unix keyboard have no switches
under the cover, while the swedish keyboards do have switches there.

Thomas Tornblom wrote:
> US keyboards usually lacks disp-switches. Other country specific
> keyboards usually have switches.
>
> The type-6 USB keyboards have a small latch on the vertical surface
> right above the Num Lock LED. My US unix keyboard have no switches
> under the cover, while the swedish keyboards do have switches there.

Yes, I can see a small 'trap door' there, where is looks switches could
be placed. I don't have any there.

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:39:36 +0100, Dave wrote:

> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
> sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
> don't want to shut the machine down.

Perhaps:

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806...dq6q2n7?a=view

In comp.unix.solaris Jorgen Moquist <jorgen.moquist@n.o.s.p.a.m.mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
> # kbd -a alternate or kbd -a disable
> will change keyboard <stop>+<a> sequence to <~>+<ctrl><b>
> or disable it
> and you can change keyboard safely.
> if you want you can do # kbd -a enable after the change.

You can disable a keyboard abort, but not modify the key sequence. The
'alternate' setting only affects serial console.

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Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> writes:
> I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
> know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
> the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB

Doesn't happen on mine- we have to pull the keyboard cable from time to
time to keep the daughter from wrecking whatever happens to be open when
she gets hold of the keyboard. Keyboard resumes working without issues
when its plugged back in.

Gregm

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:28:19 +0100, Dave wrote:
> Dave Uhring wrote:
>
>> If you're just trying to generate the pounds sterling (£) character you
>> should be able to do it readily with the US keyboard: Compose, l, -.
>> In fact I just generated that one on a US PeeCee keyboard with the
>> right "windows" key remapped.
>
> How do you enter the Compose, l, - ??

Just that, 1. Compose, 2. l, 3. -

> If I do that, I just see '1-'. Also, is 'l' the lower case version of
> 'L', or is in the number one?

Then you probably have a dirty keyboard or have remapped so many keys
that nothing is predictable. Does the indicator on the Compose Key
illuminate when the key is pressed? My Type 5C connected to an Ultra 60
is misbehaving too. Compose, l, - produces a hash (#), but only in a
dtterm. It works OK in dtpad and vi.

Execute /usr/openwin/demo/xev, place the mouse cursor in the small window
and press the Compose key. You should see (keysym 0xff20, Multi_key) if
the Compose key is working.

The map whose URL I referenced earlier indicates using the lower case l.
Using upper case L involves yet an additional keypress - Shift. Why make
life more complicated?

> If its possible to get the pound sign in less keystrokes, I would like
> to. It is a character I use quite a bit.

Once you get used to it, you really don't notice the extra keystrokes. I
correspond regularly with a fellow from Spain and have to use á, ó and é
often.

> I'd also like to disable that key between the Help and F1, which I have
> found no use for, but just an irritation.

That's your "Any" key, for when the screen instructions tell you to hit
any key to proceed.

On Oct 16, 5:28 pm, Dave <nowh...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Dave Uhring wrote:
> > If you're just trying to generate the pounds sterling (£) character you
> > should be able to do it readily with the US keyboard: Compose, l, -. In
> > fact I just generated that one on a US PeeCee keyboard with the right
> > "windows" key remapped.
> How do you enter the Compose, l, - ??
> If I do that, I just see '1-'. Also, is 'l' the lower case version of
> 'L', or is in the number one?

Its like ascii art in a way - but it really should have been a capital
L :
Compose ell dash
anyway I too got a dash. Hmm maybe I dont have enough LANG
types installed.... Nope it was my shell - I normally use bash and it
dumps a simple "-" character. ECS v Compose l - gets me an octal
number : >
exec ksh produces the "quid' sign in an xterm and dtterm.


> If its possible to get the pound sign in less keystrokes, I would like
> to. It is a character I use quite a bit.

Well I bought a new keyboard from Sun last year for the equivalent of
20 pounds...

> I'd also like to disable that key between the Help and F1, which I have
> found no use for, but just an irritation.

According to Greg Menke <gusenet@comcast.net>:
>
> Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> writes:
> > I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
> > know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
> > the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB
>
> Doesn't happen on mine- we have to pull the keyboard cable from time to
> time to keep the daughter from wrecking whatever happens to be open when
> she gets hold of the keyboard. Keyboard resumes working without issues
> when its plugged back in.

And -- I believe that you can plug in a separate keyboard to
another USB socket (you're only using two out of the four for the
keyboard and the mouse/trackball already), so you can probably add a
keyboard with the needed characterset and remove the one which you are
currently using once the new one is verified as recognized and working.

(Yes -- a Logitech trackball will work nicely as a three-button
mouse on at least an Ultra-60 with a USB card, and it even adds a scroll
wheel which some software will honor.

And -- in the meanwhile, you should be able to type a sequence
of {compose-key} followed by two others (such as "compose-e-'" to
produce "é". I just don't know the proper key sequence for accessing
the Pound sign.

Also -- the following were typed using the '<>' (diamond) key as
a shift key, and stepping through the number and letter keys. (My
apologies to anyone whose system I confuse with these characters, which
are part of the extended ASCII set instead of the original 7-bit ASCII.

±²³´µ¶·¸¹°*½Üà
ñ÷åòôùõéïðÛÝ
áóäæçèêë컧
úøãöâîí¬®¯

And the following were typed with both the diamond key and the [SHIFT]
key depressed

¡À£¤¥Þ¦ª¨©ß«üþ
Ñ×ÅÒÔÙÕÉÏÐûý
ÁÓÄÆÇÈÊË̺¢
ÚØÃÖÂÎͼ¾¿

So -- you can get your UK Pound symbol by holding the diamond
and the shift keys while typing '#' (which is often called "pound" here
in the USA, because it is used in combination with a number to indicate
capacity in pounds, such as a "3# bag" is a paper bag to hold 3 pounds
of some substance.

Awkward, but it works -- sometimes. For example, it works for
me in an xterm, but *not* in a dtterm. You'll have to experiment to see
what works for you.

Good Luck,
DoN.
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On 2007-10-16, Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
> sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
> don't want to shut the machine down.

I guess you've already had the answer to this, but a couple of other points;

- I have a UK keyboard on my SB2000, which has a GBP sign above the '3'. And the
little door behind & below the 'Num Lock' has a set of dip switches behind it.
they are set to; 10001. The KB is labelled "Type 6 USB".

- The pound sign is not well supported. For example, I'm composing this posting
in nedit, which works fine - here's a GBP sign; £

But in other places, other things happen;

Gnome terminal - question mark.
xterm - hash sign (aka "octothorpe")
gedit - I get the error "** (gedit:2308): WARNING **: Error converting text from
IM to UTF-8: Invalid byte sequence in conversion input"
StarOffice 7 - GBP sign (I haven't tried Open Office yet)

The "Compose" hacks offered by several other people don't work well, either. I
have essentially given up trying to get a general solution for a GBP sign.

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