Dave Uhring wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:39:36 +0100, Dave wrote:
>
>> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
>> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
>> sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
>> don't want to shut the machine down.
>
> Perhaps:
>
> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806...dq6q2n7?a=view


Thanks. I'm not exactly sure what is or is not possible. 'dumpkeys' and
'loadkeys' would appear to dump the translation:

NAME
loadkeys, dumpkeys - load and dump keyboard translation
tables

SYNOPSIS
loadkeys [filename]

dumpkeys

DESCRIPTION
<snip>
dumpkeys writes the current contents of the keyboard streams
module's translation tables, in the format specified by
keytables(4), to the standard output.


but whilst that displays something, I dont get anywhere:


kestrel / % dumpkeys > /tmp/foo
kestrel / % loadkeys /tmp/foo
/tmp/foo, line 4: syntax error


Also tried

kestrel / % kbd -s
1. Albanian 17. Malta_US
2. Belarusian 18. Norwegian
3. Belgian 19. Portuguese
4. Bulgarian 20. Russian
5. Croatian 21. Serbia-And-Montenegro
6. Danish 22. Slovenian
7. Dutch 23. Slovakian
8. Finnish 24. Spanish
9. French 25. Swedish
10. German 26. Swiss-French
11. Icelandic 27. Swiss-German
12. Italian 28. Taiwanese
13. Japanese-type6 29. TurkishQ
14. Japanese 30. TurkishF
15. Korean 31. UK-English
16. Malta_UK 32. US-English

To select the keyboard layout, enter a number [default 32]:


but that does not seem to make the slighest difference, whatever I select.

The following looks semi-promising:

tail /etc/default/kbd


# Uncomment the following line to set up the keyboard layout. The
# keyboard layouts supported can be listed by running 'kbd -s'.
# The value will override the keyboard-layout value supplied in eeprom
# if it exists in eeprom when system boots.
#LAYOUT=


But I cant reboot the machine yet, which that appears to need to take
effect. Hence I cant test it.

Dave wrote:
> I'd like to remove the keyboard that's plugged into my blade 2000. I
> know on the earlier machines this would almost certainly drop a Sun to
> the OK prompt. Will this happen on the Blade 2000, with its USB keyboard?
>
> Does anyone know the difference between the keyboards from different
> countries (US, UK, France etc)? Are there DIP switches inside which
> makes the keys produce a different character? Or some other way?
>
> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
> sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
> don't want to shut the machine down.
# kbd -a alternate or kbd -a disable
will change keyboard <stop>+<a> sequence to <~>+<ctrl><b>
or disable it
and you can change keyboard safely.
if you want you can do # kbd -a enable after the change.
/Jorgen

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:55:29 +0100, Dave wrote:

> Dave Uhring wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:39:36 +0100, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
>>> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the
>>> pound sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and
>>> check, but I don't want to shut the machine down.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>>
>> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/806...dq6q2n7?a=view
>
>
> Thanks. I'm not exactly sure what is or is not possible. 'dumpkeys' and
> 'loadkeys' would appear to dump the translation:

If you're just trying to generate the pounds sterling (£) character you
should be able to do it readily with the US keyboard: Compose, l, -. In
fact I just generated that one on a US PeeCee keyboard with the right
"windows" key remapped.

Dave Uhring wrote:

> If you're just trying to generate the pounds sterling (£) character you
> should be able to do it readily with the US keyboard: Compose, l, -. In
> fact I just generated that one on a US PeeCee keyboard with the right
> "windows" key remapped.

How do you enter the Compose, l, - ??

If I do that, I just see '1-'. Also, is 'l' the lower case version of
'L', or is in the number one?

If its possible to get the pound sign in less keystrokes, I would like
to. It is a character I use quite a bit.


I'd also like to disable that key between the Help and F1, which I have
found no use for, but just an irritation.

Jorgen Moquist wrote:

> # kbd -a alternate or kbd -a disable
> will change keyboard <stop>+<a> sequence to <~>+<ctrl><b>
> or disable it
> and you can change keyboard safely.
> if you want you can do # kbd -a enable after the change.
> /Jorgen

Thank you. Now I know where the switches are, and my keyboard does not
have them, I will not bother removing the keyboard. I'll try to find a
software solution to remapping the keys. Unfortunately, I would rather
not reboot for a month or so, so things that need a reboot will have to
wait for another week

Huge wrote:
> On 2007-10-17, Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Huge wrote:
>>> On 2007-10-16, Dave <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Basically I have a US keyboard, but I'm in the UK. I'm trying to
>>>> ascertain if I can convert it to a UK keyboard, so it produces the pound
>>>> sign. If not, I'll have to buy one. I'll take it apart and check, but I
>>>> don't want to shut the machine down.
>>> I guess you've already had the answer to this, but a couple of other points;
>>>
>>> - I have a UK keyboard on my SB2000, which has a GBP sign above the '3'. And the
>>> little door behind & below the 'Num Lock' has a set of dip switches behind it.
>>> they are set to; 10001. The KB is labelled "Type 6 USB".
>>
>> Is that 10001 going left to right, top to bottom, or what?
>
> *grin*
>
> It doesn't make any difference. There are 5 switches, and they're set;

I realised that later!!!!

>
> OFF ON ON ON OFF
>
> (Sorry, I got it bass-ackwards.)

I suspected you might have done.

I got the soldering iron out, and joined the first and last. It has
swapped some keys around, but still i get a #. I am going to take it
apart again and have another try, this time joining the 3 centre ones,
not the 2 outer ones.

Watch this space ...



>
>
>

Dave wrote:
\
> I got the soldering iron out, and joined the first and last. It has
> swapped some keys around, but still i get a #. I am going to take it
> apart again and have another try, this time joining the 3 centre ones,
> not the 2 outer ones.
>
> Watch this space ...

I've now swapped changed the solder bridges on the board, but not
entirely successfully.

1) It got rid of the annoying 'ANY' key, which is now an Esc key.
2) No UK pound key
3) The backspace key no longer works as a backspace, but instead prints
'\' or, if the shift key is down, it prints '|'. Since the backspace and
the \ keys are of different sizes, it is not as simple as just moving
the key caps.

A few other keys have moved around. Having some old keyboards around, I
can move the key caps so things look right, but it seems the UK and US
keyboards have different layouts of keys, so it is not as simple as just
bridging the connections.


Not to worry. If the Sun dealer gets off his **** and sends me a quote,
I will buy a new type 7 country kit.

I've got a type 6 American keyboard on a SunBlade 100 running Solaris
10. If I type Compose, Shift and L, then a -, I get an English pound
sign in an xterm window. For a Gnome terminal window and this window,
(whatever firefox puts up to read Goggle Groups) I get:L£

The new keyboards are cheap from SUN. I just bought a TYPE 7 country kit
for $57 which was surprisingly inexpensive considering its from SUN.
(sun.ca)



Dave wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> \
>
>> I got the soldering iron out, and joined the first and last. It has
>> swapped some keys around, but still i get a #. I am going to take it
>> apart again and have another try, this time joining the 3 centre ones,
>> not the 2 outer ones.
>>
>> Watch this space ...
>
>
> I've now swapped changed the solder bridges on the board, but not
> entirely successfully.
>
> 1) It got rid of the annoying 'ANY' key, which is now an Esc key.
> 2) No UK pound key
> 3) The backspace key no longer works as a backspace, but instead prints
> '\' or, if the shift key is down, it prints '|'. Since the backspace and
> the \ keys are of different sizes, it is not as simple as just moving
> the key caps.
>
> A few other keys have moved around. Having some old keyboards around, I
> can move the key caps so things look right, but it seems the UK and US
> keyboards have different layouts of keys, so it is not as simple as just
> bridging the connections.
>
>
> Not to worry. If the Sun dealer gets off his **** and sends me a quote,
> I will buy a new type 7 country kit.
>
>
>
>
>

Michelle wrote:
> The new keyboards are cheap from SUN. I just bought a TYPE 7 country kit
> for $57 which was surprisingly inexpensive considering its from SUN.
> (sun.ca)


Yes,

I decided to give up and buy a new one. It cost me GBP 33.24.