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Old 01-12-2008, 05:29 AM
TCMa
 
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Default write and read files to/from tape

I want to write and read a small text file (50-200 bytes) to/from the
beginning of a tape. Then I use ufsdump and ufsrestore to write and
read several partitions of the disk to/from the same tape.
e.g.
ufsdump 0uf /dev/rmt/0cn /dev
ufsrestore rf /dev/rmt/0cn

What is the command to write and read the small text file to the
beginning of tape?

Should I use the cpio command?
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Old 01-12-2008, 05:29 AM
Anthony Mandic
 
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In comp.unix.solaris TCMa <ma77777777772000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I want to write and read a small text file (50-200 bytes) to/from the
> beginning of a tape. Then I use ufsdump and ufsrestore to write and
> read several partitions of the disk to/from the same tape.
> e.g.
> ufsdump 0uf /dev/rmt/0cn /dev
> ufsrestore rf /dev/rmt/0cn


Not without rewinding the tape first, ya don't.

>
> What is the command to write and read the small text file to the
> beginning of tape?


tar cvf /dev/rmt/0cn files

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Old 01-12-2008, 05:29 AM
Chris Thompson
 
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In article <3f5e5ac0$0$25343$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
Anthony Mandic <oi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In comp.unix.solaris TCMa <ma77777777772000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> I want to write and read a small text file (50-200 bytes) to/from the
>> beginning of a tape. Then I use ufsdump and ufsrestore to write and
>> read several partitions of the disk to/from the same tape.
>> e.g.
>> ufsdump 0uf /dev/rmt/0cn /dev
>> ufsrestore rf /dev/rmt/0cn

>
> Not without rewinding the tape first, ya don't.
>
>> What is the command to write and read the small text file to the
>> beginning of tape?

>
> tar cvf /dev/rmt/0cn files


Why use tar? I usually use dd for this sort of thing, but if the file
is so small you don't care about controlling the blocksize, cat is
perfectly adequate:

cat small_text_file >/dev/rmt/0cn

Chris Thompson
Email: cet1 [at] cam.ac.uk
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Old 01-12-2008, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: write and read files to/from tape

Why no one mentioned the cpio command?
How is the cpio command compare with the cat, tar or dd command?
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Old 01-12-2008, 05:29 AM
Logan Shaw
 
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TCMa wrote:

> Why no one mentioned the cpio command?
> How is the cpio command compare with the cat, tar or dd command?


It's very much like using the "tar" command, especially if
you use the "-H ustar" option on the "cpio" command.
"cat" or "dd" don't require a temporary file to be created,
but they also won't store a filename on the tape, and if
someone comes along after you and doesn't know the format
of the tape, it could be helpful to have that file in an
easily-recognizable format like tar and to have the file
named something really obvious like "README". Otherwise,
I can imagine someone trying "tar", "ufsrestore", etc. on
the first file and finally deciding that "it's some kind
of weird garbage" and just ignoring it. :-)

- Logan

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Old 01-12-2008, 05:30 AM
Joerg Schilling
 
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In article <ccd99f9a.0309091416.5e8fd8c2@posting.google.com >,
TCMa <ma77777777772000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>I want to write and read a small text file (50-200 bytes) to/from the
>beginning of a tape. Then I use ufsdump and ufsrestore to write and
>read several partitions of the disk to/from the same tape.
>e.g.
>ufsdump 0uf /dev/rmt/0cn /dev
>ufsrestore rf /dev/rmt/0cn
>
>What is the command to write and read the small text file to the
>beginning of tape?
>
>Should I use the cpio command?


The cpio command cannot really be recommended since many years.

- CPIO is not an extensible format. If you like to extend it,
you need to define a new incompatible format. This already
has been done twice! The first format (from around 1975) was
binary and had massive portability problems after UNIX
has been ported to other platforms than the PDP-11. You cannot
even autodetect byte oder unless the first file name has an
odd number of characters.

- The second format from around 1985 but limits
UID/GID to 262143 and only allows 18 bits for major/minor.
Major/minor is not split which may give problems.
The max file size is 8 GB

- The third format if from 1989 (SVR4).
It entents uid/gid to 32 bits, has split major/minor
but limits the file size to 2 GB. So this was a partial
step backwards :-(

- Most cpio programs have massive problems with hard links
because there is no file name based mapping. Instead the
detection is based on st_dev and st_ino and some bits
are mapped off before archiving. As most cpio implementations
do not create virtual mapped inode numbers, 'funny' things
happen if there are hard links.


- No CPIO format contains the user/group name which gives
problems if you need to transport date to systems with
diferent id/name mapping.


- As the three CPIO formats are completely non interchangeable
nothing may be read if the currenly found format is not
supported by the extraction program. As a POSIX compliant
program only needs to support the second one, you may
imagine yourself what happens if you don't know this
in advance....

Tar is much more forgiving.

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Old 01-12-2008, 05:30 AM
Darren Dunham
 
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In comp.unix.solaris TCMa <ma77777777772000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I want to write and read a small text file (50-200 bytes) to/from the
> beginning of a tape. Then I use ufsdump and ufsrestore to write and
> read several partitions of the disk to/from the same tape.
> e.g.
> ufsdump 0uf /dev/rmt/0cn /dev
> ufsrestore rf /dev/rmt/0cn


> What is the command to write and read the small text file to the
> beginning of tape?


It's not entirely clear to me what you intend from your posting, but I
wanted to verify that you're not wanting to "write" to the beginning of
the tape and then "read" anything after that, correct?

Writing to the beginning of the tape will effectively erase the tape.
You may already understand that, but I wanted to be certain.

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Old 01-12-2008, 05:30 AM
Emmanuel Florac
 
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Dans article <ccd99f9a.0309100638.102a0c9b@posting.google.com >,
ma77777777772000@yahoo.ca disait...
>
> Why no one mentioned the cpio command?
> How is the cpio command compare with the cat, tar or dd command?


cpio doesn't change access time. Tar does.

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Joerg Schilling
 
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Default Re: write and read files to/from tape

In article <MPG.19c9aac4912c9a5998ca30@news.free.fr>,
Emmanuel Florac <eflorac@imaginet.fr> wrote:
>Dans article <ccd99f9a.0309100638.102a0c9b@posting.google.com >,
>ma77777777772000@yahoo.ca disait...
>>
>> Why no one mentioned the cpio command?
>> How is the cpio command compare with the cat, tar or dd command?

>
>cpio doesn't change access time. Tar does.


Both is wrong!

cpio may me told to reset access time after it did read the file.
Cpio may create tar archives and star may also be told to reset the
access time.

Star may even do this without setting ctime if you are a super user on
Solaris.

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Old 01-12-2008, 05:30 AM
Emmanuel Florac
 
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Dans article <bjo2sk$3cg$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, js@cs.tu-berlin.de
disait...
> Cpio may create tar archives and star may also be told to reset the
> access time.


Sure, and GNU tar too. However stock solaris tar can't.

> Star may even do this without setting ctime if you are a super user on
> Solaris.
>


star is a fine tool. Last time I checked it didn't support files bigger
than 4GB, though.

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