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| I remember Siemens getting rid of the older guys in the late 80s with good 401K packages. Some years later they hired them back, because the youngers were a replacement without exoerience. Same now with Cobol guys in banking... So, no need to worry, the bosses get older (and maybe wiser) too. Joerg, blue skies and a long weekend 2 hours away ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ----- Von: "Sebastian, Norma J." <NormaJean.Sebastian@tellabs.com> An: "Jörg Volz" <Joerg@it-volz.de>; "Neil Truby" <neil.truby@ardenta.com>; "Informix list" <informix-list@iiug.org> Gesendet: 09.05.08 17:18 Betreff: RE: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008 thank you, your eyes are going, but that's just fine i agree... there may be a bit of a gap between our age pyramid and the younger kids... but ... well, we get to work longer if we choose.... which is not really so bad in an industry that tends to throw us older folks out too soon .... i remember the day when i realized i was no longer the youngest person in the training class .... ________________________________ From: Jörg Volz [mailto:Joerg@it-volz.de] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:25 AM To: Sebastian, Norma J.; Neil Truby; Informix list Subject: AW: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008 Your eyes and brackets betrayed you. You looked like my 14 year old daughter :-) Honestly, usually I am in the upper third with the old guys and the youngers have the majority. And I did notice the younger than me people attending, so I was not in the wrong sessions ;-) Lets say the age pyramid is a bit on the old side, but a new age pyramid around 25 is growing. And that little gap between both pyramids shouldn´t disturb much. regards, Joerg Volz ________________________________ Von: Sebastian, Norma J. [mailto:NormaJean.Sebastian@tellabs.com] Gesendet: Do 08.05.2008 02:21 An: Jörg Volz; Neil Truby; Informix list Cc: Sebastian, Norma J. Betreff: RE: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008 I think you were in the wrong sessions being in the 40-ish age bracket myself, unless my eyes deceived me, I thought I saw an interesting number of younger folks. seriously, if you have contacts at universities or other youth oriented venues and would like some focus there, get in touch with me. I had some serious discussions with IBM at the conference regarding this very topic. thanks much, Norma Jean Sebastian ________________________________ From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Jörg Volz Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:40 PM To: Neil Truby; Informix list Subject: AW: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008 I totally agree, with my nearly 40 years I felt very young. But who says that only the young guys can do IT? So think positive, when the younger DBAs have a family, kids and rediscover their hobbys again, they will move from Oracle to Informix to get the time they need. ;-) But: I was (positive!) surprised about the percentage of women attending the meeting. Joerg Volz (sorry for the big automatic disclaimer, but in Germany it´s law) ________________________________ Von: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org im Auftrag von Neil Truby Gesendet: Mi 07.05.2008 22:27 An: informix-list@iiug.org Betreff: Re: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008 <mark.scranton@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b3cdbbd9-8ce3-459d-8dfe-4e4f7350a6ea@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... One observation that I omitted for some reason, but several people commented upon it, was the high average age of the attendees. Robert, who also attended from Ardenta, is in his his early thirties and I wuld say he was very comfortably in the bottom decile of the age distribution. I have one Informix specialist at Ardenta who is still not 30, but he seems to be an aberraton in this respsect, and a good 10-15 years younger than the average Informix expert. I think this is quite a worrying demographic for Informix - clearly many years have gone past since youngsters think it worth studying - and this is an important thing to counter if Informix is to regain its pomp under the renewed vigour of IBM's promotion. _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list IT Handel und Beratung Jörg Volz Bernhard-Früh-Str. 7 77855 Achern GERMANY Tel: 07841-681651 Fax: 07841-681654 Mobil: 0170-2989757 Ust-ID: DE201383541 http://www.it-volz.de <http://www.it-volz.de/> ================================================== ========== The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. 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