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Old 04-20-2008, 05:29 PM
Neil Truby
 
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Default IDS 10 for Sun procs

Hi

I have a customer who is planning a new IDS installation on SunFire v890s
(Unltra Sparc IV+ chips), who will run their test system on Sun T2000s
(UltraSparc T1 processors). In both cases this will be IDS 10 on Solaris
10. Is the IDS code-stream common to the two processor types, does anyone
know?

thx
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Old 04-20-2008, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: IDS 10 for Sun procs

On 5 Nov, 15:38, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a customer who is planning a new IDS installation on SunFire v890s
> (Unltra Sparc IV+ chips), who will run their test system on Sun T2000s
> (UltraSparc T1 processors). In both cases this will be IDS 10 on Solaris
> 10. Is the IDS code-stream common to the two processor types, does anyone
> know?
>
> thx
> --
> Neil Truby t:01932 724027
> Director m:07798 811708
> Ardenta Limited e:neil.tr...@ardenta.com


Hi Neil,

As far as I am aware the two (Sparc IV and T1 (ie Niagra)) processors
are binary compatible so in theory the same code *should* work.
IBM's GA spreadsheet also doesn't differentiate between SPARC CPUs. If
you can tell us which release you are currently
using I could check further in the machine notes.

I hope this helps.



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Old 04-20-2008, 05:29 PM
Neil Truby
 
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Default Re: IDS 10 for Sun procs

It's IDS 10.0FC7, if you can really be bothered to do that for me!

I wondered if it might be different because IBM *does* distinguish between
the processors in its PVU pricing calculations.

"Upsidedown Head" <simon.bowering@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 5 Nov, 15:38, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a customer who is planning a new IDS installation on SunFire v890s
>> (Unltra Sparc IV+ chips), who will run their test system on Sun T2000s
>> (UltraSparc T1 processors). In both cases this will be IDS 10 on Solaris
>> 10. Is the IDS code-stream common to the two processor types, does
>> anyone
>> know?
>>
>> thx
>> --
>> Neil Truby t:01932 724027
>> Director m:07798 811708
>> Ardenta Limited e:neil.tr...@ardenta.com

>
> Hi Neil,
>
> As far as I am aware the two (Sparc IV and T1 (ie Niagra)) processors
> are binary compatible so in theory the same code *should* work.
> IBM's GA spreadsheet also doesn't differentiate between SPARC CPUs. If
> you can tell us which release you are currently
> using I could check further in the machine notes.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>



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To whom it may concern:

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On 5 Nov, 17:25, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote:
> To whom it may concern:
>
> Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
> Subject: IDS 10 for Sun procs
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> informix-l...@iiug.org on 05/11/2007 16:30
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> Please contact your system administrator.
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Hi Neil,

Looks like IBM only have one common port for Solaris 8,9,10 64bit on
10.00.FC7 :

http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epub...290.html#sun64

and

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/...SPARC-reqs.pdf

I hope this helps.

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Default Re: IDS 10 for Sun procs

Thank you for that!
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Director m:07798 811708
Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com


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> On 5 Nov, 17:25, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote:
>> To whom it may concern:
>>
>> Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
>> Subject: IDS 10 for Sun procs
>> Sent: 05/11/2007 15:39
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>> informix-l...@iiug.org on 05/11/2007 16:30
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>
> Hi Neil,
>
> Looks like IBM only have one common port for Solaris 8,9,10 64bit on
> 10.00.FC7 :
>
> http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epub...290.html#sun64
>
> and
>
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/...SPARC-reqs.pdf
>
> I hope this helps.
>



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On 6 Nov, 14:00, "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >From: "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com>

>
> The interesting thing is that Sun is warning customers that unless they have
> multi-threaded applications that they shouldn't expect as much of a
> performance boost with their new chip set. Not that this should be a problem
> with IDS since it is multi-threaded.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a huge boost over the competition on this
> new architecture.
> (Not that I could afford a Sun box...)
>
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Its true Niagra's architecture is heavily gear towards multithreaded
applications so as you state IDS should do fine :-)


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On 6 Nov, 14:00, "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >From: "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com>

>
> The interesting thing is that Sun is warning customers that unless they have
> multi-threaded applications that they shouldn't expect as much of a
> performance boost with their new chip set. Not that this should be a problem
> with IDS since it is multi-threaded.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a huge boost over the competition on this
> new architecture.
> (Not that I could afford a Sun box...)
>
> __________________________________________________ _______________
> More photos; more messages; more storage-get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail.http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotma...id=TXT_TAGHM_m...


Yes its true that to make the most of Niagra's architecture you do
require multithreaded code - which in essence is true of most recent
CPU pipeline designs with multiple cores. As you state IDS should run
well with this :-)

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On 6 Nov, 15:17, Upsidedown Head <simon.bower...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 6 Nov, 14:00, "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >From: "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com>

>
> > The interesting thing is that Sun is warning customers that unless they have
> > multi-threaded applications that they shouldn't expect as much of a
> > performance boost with their new chip set. Not that this should be a problem
> > with IDS since it is multi-threaded.

>
> > I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a huge boost over the competition on this
> > new architecture.
> > (Not that I could afford a Sun box...)

>
> > __________________________________________________ _______________
> > More photos; more messages; more storage-get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail.http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotma...id=TXT_TAGHM_m...

>
> Yes its true that to make the most of Niagra's architecture you do
> require multithreaded code - which in essence is true of most recent
> CPU pipeline designs with multiple cores. As you state IDS should run
> well with this :-)


oops didn't think the first post worked ;-)

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