All,
Anyone have any luck with the RedHat Enterprise System (RHES 2.1 or
3.0)
and installing/running the IDS 7.3 Engine, SQLRT, and CLIENTSDK?

RHES 3.0 and IDS 7.3 seem to be library incompatable (glibc changes in
Redhat)
Any one have luck with the 2.1 verison?

IDS is looking for GLIBC 2.0, RHES 3.0 glibc saw (per Redhat
newsgroups) major changes and release level to 2-3-2.

Per glibc website, the error messages are bogus at intall and
executing simple onstat commands but its all looking at glibc.

Will Infomrix 7.3 work on the ES Linux OS?

Thanks,
Kelly

Kelly Wood wrote:
> All,
> Anyone have any luck with the RedHat Enterprise System (RHES 2.1 or
> 3.0)
> and installing/running the IDS 7.3 Engine, SQLRT, and CLIENTSDK?
>
> RHES 3.0 and IDS 7.3 seem to be library incompatable (glibc changes in
> Redhat)
> Any one have luck with the 2.1 verison?
>
> IDS is looking for GLIBC 2.0, RHES 3.0 glibc saw (per Redhat
> newsgroups) major changes and release level to 2-3-2.
>
> Per glibc website, the error messages are bogus at intall and
> executing simple onstat commands but its all looking at glibc.
>
> Will Infomrix 7.3 work on the ES Linux OS?
>
> Thanks,
> Kelly

I don't know if this will help you in any way, but
I had Redhat 8.0 running with 9.4 IDS, SE and old
7.2 version of ISQL. Never tried Redhat 9.0, but
most people in this NG that tried had some issued.
Presently running 9.4 on SuSe 9.0 Pro.

Michael

kwood@acs.roadway.com (Kelly Wood) wrote in message news:<69ab225d.0312062117.b5ea965@posting.google.c om>...
> All,
> Anyone have any luck with the RedHat Enterprise System (RHES 2.1 or
> 3.0)
> and installing/running the IDS 7.3 Engine, SQLRT, and CLIENTSDK?

There are, as you mentioned, glibc problems with later versions of Red
Hat (RH9, ES/AS 2.1 or 3.0). Having just gotten IDS 9.4 to run on RH9,
I can tell you that nothing is really supported on RH9 yet. (IDS
9.40.UC2 ran without a problem; blademgr was another story, however.)
IDS 9.40.UC3, which is due out in a few weeks is certified for RH 3.0.
I'm going to guess that you'll have to get a ported version of 7.3
also (if it is going to be supported on the Linux platform). For tools
(Client SDK, 4GL), you have to open a case with support and get a
"patch port" version. I am in the midst of this now, so I can't
comment on if/how it works.

FWIW - Some folks on the Linux list are trying to raise the profile of
these problems so that IBM addresses this platform more quickly and
correctly. Calling support is one of the best ways to do this.

Also, some of the actual developers hang out on the linux-informix
list and help solve these problems more quickly than on this list.
Join IIUG (free) if you aren't already a member and then sign up for
the linux-informix Special Interest Group (SIG) list.

Sean Durity
Moderator, Linux-Informix

sdurity@cornercap.com (Sean R. Durity) wrote in message news:<a1dd8270.0312081027.70a6dc66@posting.google. com>...
> kwood@acs.roadway.com (Kelly Wood) wrote in message news:<69ab225d.0312062117.b5ea965@posting.google.c om>...
> > All,
> > Anyone have any luck with the RedHat Enterprise System (RHES 2.1 or
> > 3.0)
> > and installing/running the IDS 7.3 Engine, SQLRT, and CLIENTSDK?
>
> There are, as you mentioned, glibc problems with later versions of Red
> Hat (RH9, ES/AS 2.1 or 3.0). Having just gotten IDS 9.4 to run on RH9,
> I can tell you that nothing is really supported on RH9 yet. (IDS
> 9.40.UC2 ran without a problem; blademgr was another story, however.)
> IDS 9.40.UC3, which is due out in a few weeks is certified for RH 3.0.
> I'm going to guess that you'll have to get a ported version of 7.3
> also (if it is going to be supported on the Linux platform). For tools
> (Client SDK, 4GL), you have to open a case with support and get a
> "patch port" version. I am in the midst of this now, so I can't
> comment on if/how it works.
>

> FWIW - Some folks on the Linux list are trying to raise the profile of
> these problems so that IBM addresses this platform more quickly and
> correctly. Calling support is one of the best ways to do this.
>
> Also, some of the actual developers hang out on the linux-informix
> list and help solve these problems more quickly than on this list.
> Join IIUG (free) if you aren't already a member and then sign up for
> the linux-informix Special Interest Group (SIG) list.
>
> Sean Durity
> Moderator, Linux-Informix

Sean & Michael,
Thanks for the info/help!
We have a case open (Opened 12/8) with IBM/Informix concerning the
"build errors" and they are supposed to get back with me for the RH9
Patch.
Ill get on the IIUG list ASAP.
RH3.0 and IDS 7.3 are the right platforms for our business
requirements and we really need this to work correctly. If it does
not, we will be force to fall back to AIX5 which we tested and ran
into a lot of problems.

Kelly

Kelly Wood wrote:
> sdurity@cornercap.com (Sean R. Durity) wrote in message news:<a1dd8270.0312081027.70a6dc66@posting.google. com>...
>
>>kwood@acs.roadway.com (Kelly Wood) wrote in message news:<69ab225d.0312062117.b5ea965@posting.google.c om>...
>>
>>>All,
>>>Anyone have any luck with the RedHat Enterprise System (RHES 2.1 or
>>>3.0)
>>>and installing/running the IDS 7.3 Engine, SQLRT, and CLIENTSDK?
>>
>>There are, as you mentioned, glibc problems with later versions of Red
>>Hat (RH9, ES/AS 2.1 or 3.0). Having just gotten IDS 9.4 to run on RH9,
>>I can tell you that nothing is really supported on RH9 yet. (IDS
>>9.40.UC2 ran without a problem; blademgr was another story, however.)
>>IDS 9.40.UC3, which is due out in a few weeks is certified for RH 3.0.
>>I'm going to guess that you'll have to get a ported version of 7.3
>>also (if it is going to be supported on the Linux platform). For tools
>>(Client SDK, 4GL), you have to open a case with support and get a
>>"patch port" version. I am in the midst of this now, so I can't
>>comment on if/how it works.
>>
>
>
>>FWIW - Some folks on the Linux list are trying to raise the profile of
>>these problems so that IBM addresses this platform more quickly and
>>correctly. Calling support is one of the best ways to do this.
>>
>>Also, some of the actual developers hang out on the linux-informix
>>list and help solve these problems more quickly than on this list.
>>Join IIUG (free) if you aren't already a member and then sign up for
>>the linux-informix Special Interest Group (SIG) list.
>>
>>Sean Durity
>>Moderator, Linux-Informix
>
>
> Sean & Michael,
> Thanks for the info/help!
> We have a case open (Opened 12/8) with IBM/Informix concerning the
> "build errors" and they are supposed to get back with me for the RH9
> Patch.
> Ill get on the IIUG list ASAP.
> RH3.0 and IDS 7.3 are the right platforms for our business
> requirements and we really need this to work correctly. If it does
> not, we will be force to fall back to AIX5 which we tested and ran
> into a lot of problems.
>
> Kelly

Would you mind sharing the info about AIX5 problems with me
online or offline. I have a customer looking at that upgrade right now.

Also is there anything preventing you from going to 9.4?
To e-mail remove all caps from my address.

Thanks

Michael

Michael Krzepkowski <NOmichaelkSPAM@sqlcanada.com> wrote in message news:<3FD5E360.4080809@sqlcanada.com>...
> Kelly Wood wrote:
> > sdurity@cornercap.com (Sean R. Durity) wrote in message news:<a1dd8270.0312081027.70a6dc66@posting.google. com>...
> >
> >>kwood@acs.roadway.com (Kelly Wood) wrote in message news:<69ab225d.0312062117.b5ea965@posting.google.c om>...
> >>
> >>>All,
> >>>Anyone have any luck with the RedHat Enterprise System (RHES 2.1 or
> >>>3.0)
> >>>and installing/running the IDS 7.3 Engine, SQLRT, and CLIENTSDK?
> >>
> >>There are, as you mentioned, glibc problems with later versions of Red
> >>Hat (RH9, ES/AS 2.1 or 3.0). Having just gotten IDS 9.4 to run on RH9,
> >>I can tell you that nothing is really supported on RH9 yet. (IDS
> >>9.40.UC2 ran without a problem; blademgr was another story, however.)
> >>IDS 9.40.UC3, which is due out in a few weeks is certified for RH 3.0.
> >>I'm going to guess that you'll have to get a ported version of 7.3
> >>also (if it is going to be supported on the Linux platform). For tools
> >>(Client SDK, 4GL), you have to open a case with support and get a
> >>"patch port" version. I am in the midst of this now, so I can't
> >>comment on if/how it works.
> >>
> >
> >
> >>FWIW - Some folks on the Linux list are trying to raise the profile of
> >>these problems so that IBM addresses this platform more quickly and
> >>correctly. Calling support is one of the best ways to do this.
> >>
> >>Also, some of the actual developers hang out on the linux-informix
> >>list and help solve these problems more quickly than on this list.
> >>Join IIUG (free) if you aren't already a member and then sign up for
> >>the linux-informix Special Interest Group (SIG) list.
> >>
> >>Sean Durity
> >>Moderator, Linux-Informix
> >
> >
> > Sean & Michael,
> > Thanks for the info/help!
> > We have a case open (Opened 12/8) with IBM/Informix concerning the
> > "build errors" and they are supposed to get back with me for the RH9
> > Patch.
> > Ill get on the IIUG list ASAP.
> > RH3.0 and IDS 7.3 are the right platforms for our business
> > requirements and we really need this to work correctly. If it does
> > not, we will be force to fall back to AIX5 which we tested and ran
> > into a lot of problems.
> >
> > Kelly
>
> Would you mind sharing the info about AIX5 problems with me
> online or offline. I have a customer looking at that upgrade right now.
>
> Also is there anything preventing you from going to 9.4?
> To e-mail remove all caps from my address.
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael


I got an email from Informix support today and a follow-up call!
Guess what is somewhat available?
IDS 7.3 UD7, last GA release is UD6, it was reported to me that this
new build
should (needs additional validation) correct the library
incompatability with the RHES 3.0 OS!
Ill Keep you posted!

Michael,
Our number one problem was the third party applications support for
AIX 5.X.
Informix seemed to run smoothly, but we could not fully evaluate it
due to other application integration with IDS. We looked at 5.2 and
there was NO support and they were quoting 6 months to a year before
they would be ready. IBM AIX OS was 4th/5th on the list for ports.
(WIN/SUN or Solaris/Linux/?/AIX)
Even 5.1 had limited support, we would have been required to "hack"
the systems to work the way we needed it to.
ISM support for AIX is marginal, look into the pax utility, a known
"bug" for 5+ years, the recommeded fix, turn off standard error when
using! Nice fix!
Yes, pax is old, but to keep the migration short and sweet, it was
decided to stay with it.

All of this was 6+ months ago, so the support should be there by now

Well, I guess we were a little to optimistic!
The IDS 7.3 UD7 (Pre-Release) was installed but we still are getting
the "build" error messages.
All utilities seem to still work correctly, but cannot be guarenteed
due to the errno messages!
UD7 added support for GLIBC 2.1, RHES 3.0 is at 2.3.
I dont think it would even be "supported" under RH9, I am not sure
what GLIBC Libraries come with that installation.

Back to the drawing board for now...........

Kelly

Kelly Wood wrote:
> Well, I guess we were a little to optimistic!
> The IDS 7.3 UD7 (Pre-Release) was installed but we still are getting
> the "build" error messages.
> All utilities seem to still work correctly, but cannot be guarenteed
> due to the errno messages!
> UD7 added support for GLIBC 2.1, RHES 3.0 is at 2.3.
> I dont think it would even be "supported" under RH9, I am not sure
> what GLIBC Libraries come with that installation.
>
> Back to the drawing board for now...........
>
> Kelly

Do you have to stay with 7.3. We installed 9.4 on RHES 2.1
without any problems (not on 3.0 - don't use anything with the zero
at the end....). Also installation on Suse 9.0 Pro worked just fine.
Would your application run with IDS 9.x or on Suse?

Michael

kwood@acs.roadway.com (Kelly Wood) writes:
> Well, I guess we were a little to optimistic!
> The IDS 7.3 UD7 (Pre-Release) was installed but we still are getting
> the "build" error messages.
> All utilities seem to still work correctly, but cannot be guarenteed
> due to the errno messages!
> UD7 added support for GLIBC 2.1, RHES 3.0 is at 2.3.
> I dont think it would even be "supported" under RH9, I am not sure
> what GLIBC Libraries come with that installation.

What happened is that Red Hat grabbed the NPTL enhancement from the
2.5 kernel and shoehorned it into their 2.4 kernel on RHL9 and RHEL3.
To support NPTL, Red Hat also enabled the thread-local variable
changes in glibc on those distros. The "errno" warning is a real bug
in IDS that the new glibc "outs".

That said, a lot of people seem to think that NPTL is bad because it
"broke" IDS. NPTL is good in that Linux now has scalable, fully
posix-compliant threads (unlike the previous pthread implementation).
Red Hat was just an early adopter; but believe-you-me, when 2.6
kernel-based distros start coming out, there will only be more wailing
and gnashing of teeth until IBM does a *real* NPTL port of IDS-7.30
(which will probably never happen)!

So, if you need it to work *right now* with a Red Hat distro, either
get IDS-9.40.UC2 and purchase support to get the csdk patch that
enables the 7.32 tools to work with NPTL, or go back to pre-RHL9 and
purchase support from Progeny.

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Michael Krzepkowski <NOmichaelkSPAM@sqlcanada.com> writes:
> We installed 9.4 on RHES 2.1 without any problems (not on 3.0 -
> don't use anything with the zero at the end....).

You do realize that RHEL2.1 was the first and only release of RHEL2,
don't you? It was probably numbered such for people with such
rules...

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