>My dear Terance,

>Be a bit more constructive. 4js has a good solution, other have too. Querix
>connects to SQL Server for example.

>Actually, it would help our good friend Gil, to understand what constraints
>brings Genero re ODI for example.

>jgp

Maybe Terance has noticed that not only is genero a mighty fine development
tool (we use it too), 4js are also sponsors of the iiug, and maybe his
constructive approach is to not promote companies that seem to use this list
as a marketing tool, but are not prepared to put their money where their
mouth is. Unlike certain members of the board I notice.

What the hell have you got against 4js? Didn't you use to work for them?

Cheers,

Pete

"Maelwys Filidh" <lleu@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe Terance has noticed that not only is genero a mighty fine
> development tool (we use it too), 4js are also sponsors of the iiug, and
> maybe his constructive approach is to not promote companies that seem to
> use this list as a marketing tool, but are not prepared to put their money
> where their mouth is. Unlike certain members of the board I notice.
>
> What the hell have you got against 4js? Didn't you use to work for them?

Maybe Terance has also noticed that 4Js have entered the RDBMS market with
"Genero DB", which might be expected to create some lively debate about
their suitability to be an IIUG "Gold Sponsor"?

There's a press release here:
http://www.4js.com/templates/en/1/af...ent=6_1&id=174. It's
very informative. An un-named company has spent an undisclosed amount of
money on Genero DB, to run their unspecified application.

Captain Pedantic said:
> There's a press release here:
> http://www.4js.com/templates/en/1/af...ent=6_1&id=174. It's
> very informative. An un-named company has spent an undisclosed amount of
> money on Genero DB, to run their unspecified application.

Sounds like someone from IBM marketing has got themselves a new job.

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Captain Pedantic wrote:
> "Maelwys Filidh" <lleu@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mailman.16.1159530240.3460.informix-list@iiug.org...
>
>> Maybe Terance has noticed that not only is genero a mighty fine
>> development tool (we use it too), 4js are also sponsors of the iiug, and
>> maybe his constructive approach is to not promote companies that seem to
>> use this list as a marketing tool, but are not prepared to put their money
>> where their mouth is. Unlike certain members of the board I notice.
>>
>> What the hell have you got against 4js? Didn't you use to work for them?
>
> Maybe Terance has also noticed that 4Js have entered the RDBMS market with
> "Genero DB", which might be expected to create some lively debate about
> their suitability to be an IIUG "Gold Sponsor"?
>
> There's a press release here:
> http://www.4js.com/templates/en/1/af...ent=6_1&id=174. It's
> very informative. An un-named company has spent an undisclosed amount of
> money on Genero DB, to run their unspecified application.
>
>
Maybe what's appropriate for one application is not important for another.
Maybe it would be good to enhance the FAQ to note what the options are,
and simply let the reader decide. Quite honestly, if you have a good
programmer, and good team, and they are tasked to deploy an app in XYZ
tool, what does it really matter? I mean 4GL might be good in one
instance, and totally inappropriate in another--who cares? The bottom
line is that they are actually using Informix, which is driven by the
XZY application. So that in and of itself makes a compelling story,
that you would even have the myriad of options to connect to the data
base with. _THAT_ is the story, you should tell everyone what you're using
and spread the word. Maybe there's something out there that we should
all be aware of that makes it better for the "end-user experience".


For example, I was reading lately how Microsoft typically encourages their
developer team to deploy their applications that are tied to a major product,
as close as possible to the same date as whatever the product is being announced.


In the case of Informix, wouldn't it be awesome to see some XYZ application announced
at the same time there is a product announcement. This is not rockets science, it
builds momentum, and enhances the core product, in our case Informix. Where are the
coding contests? the challenge of using the product? I mean really so far it's been
beyond anemic, it's beyond comatose, it's at zombie level...