Andrew Hamm wrote:

>malcolm weallans wrote:
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>>In about 1988 I suggested that there was a need for a standards body
>>to take over the protection of Informix-4GL syntax. At that time we
>>were faced with 4Js, Qerix, Aubit, and Informix, to name 4, all
>>producing 4GL compilers that could drift in syntax. Nobody was
>>interested. Is there any interest now? And would it be a good idea
>>for IIUG to co-ordinate this effort, if not becoming the standards
>>body itself?
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>>Any thoughts would be much appreciated
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>Errrrrrmmmmmm - i don't think there's really any will to make an ISO
>standard 4GL. In the grand scheme of things, 4GL is a small language market.
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Why not ?.
Sure it is small language market.
The point here is who is if there is if the companies want to do it. IBM
have the strength to do it if it wants.
In Aubit there are will to participate.

>4JS is leading the charge, and IBM with WebSphere claims to be keen on ideas
>from customers. I hope that 4JS and websphere will work together to stay
>fairly close. Querix are trying hard but I think they'll be forced to follow
>or risk going out on a limb. You've probably seen that Querix have worked to
>make themselves compatible with D4GL/BDL. I don't think they've started on
>Genero compatibility.
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>Aubit has a bit of interesting freaky stuff, but then,
>Andre has to earn a living too, so it doesn't seem to be racing ahead. Aubit
>seems to be for people who don't want to pay licence fees, but are willing
>to spend many hours working in C(++?) to fix or add features they need. That
>doesn't include many business programmers from the looks of it.
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Aubit is a project that offers some more things, like a modular
architecture that let you add your own feature implementation (if you
are C/C++ hacker). It includes 4gl code generation tools that help you
to create 4gl applications, a 4gl program documentation tool
doxygen/javadoc way, tools to build your system with Gnu Make. The Ace
to 4gl compiler provides 4gl code generation from your isql code.
With the key recording, key automatic and screen dump it is possible to
create automated tests for 4gl programs.
It have one of the biggest 4gl test/example repository with more than
700 4gl modules.

It also provides freedom to execute it whenever you want, to study it,
to redistribute copies and of course to improve it..

Can be used in conjunction with Informix, 4Js and Querix. It is not
developed to compete directly with Querix, 4js, or Informix 4gl, but
rather to complement. Also, providing a free alternative, help 4gl
comunity to grow by letting more people to access to language (including
in universities).

Sérgio
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